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Old 07-05-2015, 06:42 PM
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Hello everyone.

Me and my girlfriend decided to get a budgie (male) just over a year ago now and we managed to get him rather tame but then we decided to get another (male) to which also became rather tame. As time went on they became less and less interested in us and now we struggle to put them back in their cages once they have been out.

They will only come on our fingers to come out but once out wont come near us anymore. Do you have any advice on what we could do as we have already tried bribing them with millet and treats but come to no avail. Training them individually is impossible as they are only interested on what the other budgie is doing. We can't take them into separate rooms as we have a room dedicated for our birds due to a cat.

We have tried letting out just the budgies with none of our other birds but this makes no difference as they still just want to do their own thing.

A lot of people have said about clipping them but we are unsure about this as they have been able to fly since we got them. All the rest of our birds are extremely tame and love attention (climbing on us and getting scratches)
We would like the budgies to be the same instead of being excluded.

Should we clip them? What are your opinions on them being clipped? Is it possible to teach an old budgie new tricks?

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Old 07-05-2015, 08:13 PM
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I wouldn't clip bird's living in a home that has a cat in it. I know you keep them separated but to me it's not worth the risk. I think you would have to spend a lot of time working with each bird in a seperate room one at a time, trying to restore the bond. I have four budgies that were hand tame when I got them but since making them into a flock that lives together, I don't have that bond anymore. They will eat treat's out of my hand, land on me when I am in their room, but I need to have treat's to get that attention. It's OK with me though because I enjoy watching them as a flock, and I have a tiel who is my tame buddy, like you have your other bird's. Let's see what kind of advice some of our other friend's may give you...
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I would definitely not recommend clipping their wings as they have always been fully flighted.
Losing that ability is likely to make them very stressed and depressed.

I would start using positive reinforcement methods to work with your budgies to get them used to a specific "routine" of going back into their cage.

I have two budgies neither of which are at all hand tame and they both know to go back to their cages when asked to do so.

To begin with, darken the room to the point you and the budgies can still see but they think it is twilight or dusk. Stand by their cage and ring a bell on one of the toys inside their cage. While you are doing this, talk to them reassuringly and tell them "It's time to go back in your own cage now." The first couple of times you try it, it may take 15 minutes or so before they comply. When they go into the cage, give them each a little millet ball treat with lots of praise.

Repeat this routine each and every time you want the budgies to return to their cage and always reward them with a treat and lots of praise when they perform the wanted behavior.

Over time, you'll find you know longer need to darken the room, then later you probably won't even need to ring the bell on the toy. At this time, I simply say to my boys, "It's time to go back in your own cage now". Granted, every so often they will "tease" me and act like they are going in and then go on top of the cage instead but within just a couple of minutes they'll go in like the well-behaved budgie boys they are.

Good luck and let us know how it goes.
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Nothing seems to be working. I have tried just holding my hand in their cage and letting them come to me but they just aren't interested. (Hand has millet on it)

I tried dimming the lights and calmly approached them but nothing. They just fly away.

I clipping a no? I think maybe i would be able to train them better if they are more reliant on me. Maybe they would learn to trust me that way?
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As I said in my previous post, I would definitely not recommend clipping their wings given they have always been fully flighted. Doing so would be very stressful for them and contribute to depression.

When you dim the lights, do not approach them.
It is best to entice them to come to you, as I explained.

The whole issue at this point in time is trust. The budgies have to learn to trust you all over again and that is going to take time and patience.

Take a look at the stickies at the top of our Training and Bonding section of the forum for some other tips regarding Positive Reinforcement Training.

https://talkbudgies.com/training-bond...-training.html

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What should i use to get them to come to me? They just fly round the room. Not interested in me the slightest
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Do they like millet?

In addition to two untamed budgies and the process I use with them described in the previous post, I also have two untamed lovebirds that are given out-of-cage time every day (in a separate room).

My method with them follows:

When out of cage time begins, their flight cage is rolled into my bathroom where they have a lovely playgym, a bar in the window with toys and a bar that stretches across the room containing toys for their entertainment.

I remove their food and water dishes from the cage and open the door for them to come out.

When I'm ready for them to go back in their cage, I take sprig of millet no longer than 3-4" and I stand next to their flight cage holding it on with my arm resting on top of their cage.

When they land on the top of the cage to sample it, I let them have a few bites while I praise them and tell them what good birdies they are. Then I move the millet down the side of the cage and hold it just inside the door. They have a perch located right inside their cage so when they move down and step onto the perch then I hold the millet so they can eat some, and gently close the door of the cage as far as possible with my hand still inside.

After that, I remove my hand and feed each of them a couple of the small millet balls through the cage bars, again praising them for being good birdies.

Then I move their cage back in my bedroom and give them fresh water and their food dishes.

Everybirdie is happy!
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What should i use to get them to come to me? They just fly round the room. Not interested in me the slightest
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We have tried a lot now with our budgies but nothing seems to be working. They like millet but for some reason they are not interested when we have it.

I found the way to get them on my finger is to slowly approach them with one finger out to which about 10% of the time they will step up the rest of the time they will just fly away.

Once i have a budgie on my finger (10%) i will then try putting them into the cage which usually takes around 10 - 40 attempts.

It's getting to the point where i just don't want to let them out anymore which would be a shame because we have properly bird friendlied the room.

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At this point, all I can recommend is that you have patience and keep trying
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