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Old 07-21-2015, 07:55 PM
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Hello everyone,

My little Inky is 8 years old, and other than a lipoma located in his abdomen, he's been pretty healthy. Two weeks ago I gave him a half of a millet stick and he went crazy and started eating it quickly. I never give him this much millet at once, but wanted to give him a treat. The next day I noticed he would have these weird little beak fits, every few minutes he would do this weird thing where he opens and closes his beak quickly a few times. Here is a video I just recorded:

https://youtu.be/an89507n8wc

This same day, my fiance and had been planning on going out of town for 2 weeks so we dropped him off at my parent's house. He seemed fine otherwise so was hoping this was just a temporary thing.

Fast forward to today; we went to pick him up, and he's still doing the weird beak thing every now and then, and he has lost 15 grams. (The tumor shrinks and grows so his weight fluctuates, but this is the lowest weight I've seen him) My mom swears he ate his normal portion of food every day and was chirping and seemed perfectly fine and healthy to her, and he looks fine, aside from some little growth/flaking on the sides of his cere which could even be dried food. Photo here:

https://i.imgur.com/8ql8njL.jpg

I'd like to take him to the vet just to make sure everything is okay because the beak fits and weight loss has me concerned. The problem is, when we took him to the vet two years ago to have the lipoma tested to see if it was cancerous, he was completely traumatized and for a month he barely moved, was silent, and sat in his cage completely puffy... and now that he's a bit older, I'd like to avoid the vet visit unless it is absolutely necessary.

I'm worried and not sure what to do. I'm wondering if maybe he somehow got a piece of millet stuck somewhere in his throat that is bothering him and eventually it will work itself out, or if it's maybe something more serious going on. If anyone has any thoughts or advice, I would appreciate it <3

Thank you in advance!

I also wanted to add that he is eating and drinking normally and his droppings are normal. Also, I've been watching him and he can definitely go a while (hour or two) without doing the beak thing, but sometimes he does it several times in a row and then won't do it for a while


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Old 07-21-2015, 08:39 PM
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Sometimes the clicking is a sign of contentment. Ivy likes to do that in the morning as I'm filling up her food bowl. have you noticed what ur doing or what he's up to when he's doing the clicking noises ?
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I've never seen my bird's do anything like that in the continuous fashion you describe, so I am at a loss. Hopefully one of our experienced folk's will see this, and give some opinions. He does seem healthy and not in any distress...
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Quick update before I go to bed. We decided to take him to the vet bc this morning his breathing became a bit labored. This vet was an avian vet (unlike the one we took him to last time where he had a traumatizing experience) and she was very good!

They took X-rays and saw his liver is very fatty, most likely from his seed diet, and she tried to get blood from him but when she did, he threw up. She looked at it under the microscope and it was full of bacteria. He has a bad crop infection. She is sending the blood work out tonight and we should know by Friday what else, if anything, is going on.
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Hello Sarah I am glad you decided to take Inky to an avian vet. Most other vets do not have the experience to deal with Birds. Sometimes an Exotic vet has some experience when it come to birds but the best by far is an Avian vet.
Inky will be feeling tired, keep him extra warm supply a hot water bottle or heat pad for him to snuggle up to id he needs to. try to get some electrolytes into him to keep him nourished as he isn't eating. Will he eat egg and biscuit mix? make it a bit runny and offer with a syringe perhaps? Also get some Apple Cider Vinegar but it has to have Mother in it to be of benefit. Add a couple of drops of this to his drinking water it is a natural probiotic. When he is feeling better get him some probiotics as well. There are some great supplements that help with liver problems, read through our natural remedies. I hope he is better soon please keep us in the link regarding his progress.
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We got him back from the vet last night after a three day stay. The blood work came back normal except for the AST which was high and I ndicates liver damage. He is on batril in the water, and through syringes we are giving him milk thistle, a pain med, something for his sour stomach bc he kept spitting up, and a probiotic.

He's definitely breathing normally again which makes me very happy and shows that the baytril is working. However he has been sleeping all day and not eating more than nibbles of millet here and there. I think he is very stressed after being at the vet and being handled and poked for three days.

We are still waiting on the cultures to come back, but pretty sure this was all a bad crop infection.

$1600 for everything, and I had recently quit my job due to my own health issues, but if we didn't do anything he would have died within a few days I'm sure.

He's doing this weird duck tail shiver thing every now and then, and he's reaching around trying to bite his bottom. I realized he isn't pooping as much, so I looked at his vent and looks like there are some droppings stuck so I'm going to try to remove them gently with a wet Qtip.

Otherwise, just being very quiet and letting him rest and recover.

I may need help on food suggestions as he is not allowed to eat seed anymore due to the liver damage. I gave him some cooked pasta which he snubbed his nose at, but he loves hard boiled egg and spinach. I will try brown rice later today. I will go to the store and get different veggies to try.

This has been extremely stressful for both of us; I have hardly eaten and haven't been sleeping well worried about my poor baby.... I'm just so thankful he's home and breathing normally again! Thank you guys for the replies and support
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Sarah I am so happy your little boy is home and breathing better.it is natural he will be feeling stressed, provide him with a hot water bottle or heating pad. Probiotics are excellent as is Apple Cider Vinegar with Mother in it this is a natural probiotic.
Use a warm wet cotton ball and gently clean his vent area. This is also from stress most probably.
try to get him to eat some basil, broccoli, capsicums or peppers, parsley, spinach kale. I pick fresh grass each day for my birds. Egg and biscuit mix is a good food for adding weight and condition. Keep giving him his love and one of my budgies is a Mega Bac budgie and he is often sick. I have held him all night to keep him warm, they know you are there and I am sure he will know you are helping him. Thankyou for letting us know how he is going. I send healing thoughts and a huge hug to you as well as Karma for being a lovely Budgie Mummy. Take care.
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Thank you so much!

We actually had to take him back to the vet shortly after I posted the last update because he didn't have any droppings for 5 hours the next day. She was thinking there might be a blockage.... But before she took another xray, I asked her to look at his vent and see if it was blocked.... she looked and said that yes, there was hard dried droppings caked there. She tried to get it off and they were just too hard, so she sent us home with some topical steroids to apply to his vent and more Baytril to give him orally since he wasn't drinking the water with the Baytril in it. She believes he was dehydrated.

Two days later, he is STILL not wanting to drink water even though it's Baytril-free. I don't understand. He's eating normally, and he is making large droppings about every hour or so. Maybe he just doesn't feel well still. I'm having to dip my finger in the water and give him a drop at a time, which he hates because he screams the whole time. I don't know what else to do. He wont' eat anything else other than seed right now, so fruits and veg for extra hydration are out.

His vent looks a bit better today, but (even though he'll hate me) I'm going to hold a warm, wet cotton ball to his vent to see if I can loosen some of that up. He's not kicking at it or biting it any more, so I'm sure the steroid is helping, but I've got to get it off of him. I know how dangerous it can be, hence taking him back to the vet again when he wasn't going.
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We use a shallow bowl of warm water or even sterile saline might be good as well,with q-tip or cotton ball and massage the area till the droppings dissolve, then apply a little oil around the vent to sooth the skin. Blessings to you and your little one. A vet should be able to remove droppings. Re- Nu for contact lens wearers is great for dried blood and things like stubborn droppings.

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