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Old 07-25-2015, 05:16 PM
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Hello, first time poster. Hoping someone can give me their thoughts.

Peeta is around 2 years old. Recently his cagemate Caesar (same age) passed away. I went out and bought Pippin- had him quarantined for a bit, caged next to Peeta in a separate cage for 9 days and have just now put Pippin in with Peeta.

I'm semi regretting doing this because I can now see that Peeta has been molting. He preens a lot, is much less active/wants to nap, and is not as loud and chatty as he usually is (plus there are feathers all strewn about).

Now Pippin is following Peeta everywhere, won't let him be. There hasn't been any "fighting" - there's been some beak heckling/slight tongue action- they each briefly held each others tailfeathers in their mouths (no tugging or ripping though) - shared a food dish as well as ate out of separate ones... slept together on the same perch overnight...

but they just aren't- in love! They aren't constantly preening each other or feeding each other... not much chatter between them.. I just don't know what I'm doing. I don't want Peeta to feel betrayed or angry that he can't just have his place to himself- but I also don't want him to be without a cagemate. It's been less than a full day together so perhaps I'm just impatient?

Is it fair to assume that since there's been no violence, all they need is time? Peeta was bobbing his head a bit, and briefly preened Pippins face.. but otherwise he's trying to jump away from him most the time. Ugh. Worried

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Welcome to the forums!
I'm sorry to hear of the recent loss of your budgie Ceasar.

Now to your current situation, just the fact that it only took one day for you to see your newbie budgies to share the food bowl and Peeta preening his new friend's face are very good signs! Surely with time and once your Peeta gets more of his energy back (when the moult is about to end) you'll get to see more signs of affection.
It's not always love at first sight when introducing mates to each other and it takes time for them to form a stronger bond.

I'm wishing all the best for your budgies and feel free to post some pics of them when you have the time!
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Old 07-25-2015, 05:52 PM
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Thank you for responding!!! I figured that since there were some "positive" signs I didn't need to be too worried.

This is the first time I've really noticed peeta being affected by his molt. I've never seen him so sleepy/inactive so that in it of itself has me pretty worried. I'm assuming that since the feathers are everywhere (no pinfeathers on head yet though..) but his mess, eating (not as much as usual it seems) etc. is still about normal- that it must be molting.

I'm still really new to having budgies but they mean everything to me. I am a nervous owner. I just want to do right by my boys.

Caesar died from fatty tumors, so I've got Peeta and now Pippin on nutriberries, dandelion leaves and pellets - which they don't care for at all :/

All in all I'm very stressed trying to do the right thing. I've been living online reading stuff re: introducing new birds/molting behavior etc. You're the first person to respond to me and my worries.

I did just witness Pippin preening Peeta's head/neck area- and they've been peacefully sitting beside each other (as seen in this pic) for the last hour or so. Blue bird is Pippin and yellow is Peeta. Imgur

I really hope Peeta is just molting. I have no other reason to think otherwise but ugh.
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Welcome to talk budgies. I agree with Aluz, it sound's like your two are going to get along fine, just be patient, and give it some time. We would love to see pic's of them when you get a chance...
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Hello and welcome to the forums!

Of course you're nervous--I understand that all you want is for Pippin and Peeta to be happy together and live a long, healthy life. There's a lot of positive signs you've described, and I think they definitely will be good friends.
It sounds like you've put them on a very good diet, too. I know it seems they may never eat their greens, but keep offering them on a daily basis, in different ways, and they're bound to try them out

To ease your worry, you have been doing everything right so far. Peeta might be a little grumpy since he's moulting, but I'm sure he'll soon be back to normal and Pippin and him will be very good friends!
Thank you for joining the forums and I hope to see more of your gorgeous budgies!
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You've received great advice regarding Pippin and Peeta.
I believe you'll enjoy the forums. We have a great number of knowledgable and experienced members and lots of good information available through the "stickies" at the top of each forum section.
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Thanks everybody!!! Someone in another group has essentially scared me into thinking Peeta has been made sick by Pippin. But we can agree what I've described sounds like reasonable molting behavior on Peeta's part right?

Pippin appears healthy, and Peeta appears to be preening with feathers falling out, sleeping more and seemingly grouchy. Mess is normal, no discharge anywhere...

Regardless I've emailed my avian vet but- thoughts?
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Everything sounds normal from your description.

It's good you've contacted your Avian Vet since you are concerned.
It's always a good practice to have a "well-birdie" check-up anytime you get a new pet.
Having your budgie examined by your Avian Vet gives him/her a baseline in case there are any future illnesses or emergencies as well as putting your mind at ease that your new little friend is healthy.

If you ever choose to add additional budgies to your flock:
Quarantine means housing your new bird in a different cage in a different room as far away as possible from the room your current bird(s) is in for a period of 4-6 weeks.

Budgies mask symptoms when they are ill. Symptoms may not show up for over two weeks. Often you will not even realize your bird is not well. Many budgie illnesses are airborne which is why you need to quarantine your new bird in a completely different room.

Best wishes!
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It sounds like you've put them on a very good diet, too. I know it seems they may never eat their greens, but keep offering them on a daily basis, in different ways, and they're bound to try them out
Peeta actually flies over to me when I present the dandelion leaves every day, he's not as interested in the nutriberries yet or any fruit I give them though. I keep trying :/
Whereas Pippin is not interested in the greens but is loving the nutriberries.

It's an odd taste combo I'm working with. Still trying to improve their diets, I wish they'd eat more fruit!!
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Peeta actually flies over to me when I present the dandelion leaves every day, he's not as interested in the nutriberries yet or any fruit I give them though. I keep trying :/
Whereas Pippin is not interested in the greens but is loving the nutriberries.

It's an odd taste combo I'm working with. Still trying to improve their diets, I wish they'd eat more fruit!!
Most budgies are not crazy about fruit.
Additionally, due to the high sugar content in fruit, they are much better off with healthy vegetables with fruit as an occasional treat.
Try giving them some fresh basil, cilantro and chickweed which are nutritious and low in calories -- my guys love all three.
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