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Old 09-20-2015, 01:00 PM
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Hello,
Winter and and the cold seasons are coming up! My family is divorced, and my parents live in two houses, so throughout the winter, I will be having to transport him from my Mom's to my Dad's house about two times a month! We will be taking public transportation (as taxi's are too expensive) and will be transporting him from the house, to the bus stop, on to the bus, and from the bus to the house. He will probably be outside (not in the bus) 20 minutes tops depending when the bus is coming. So how do I transport him safely without a dramatic temputure change that can harm him? I have bought a small electric header, and plan to put a shoebox in an insulated bag with an electric heater in it (the bag will not be closed, otherwise he couldn't get air). Will this be enough? How can I be sure that it will remain a steady temputure? What is a good back up plan? Please help the cold season is coming up and I need to figure out what to do fast!
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If you visit your Dad for only a few weekends per month, perhaps you can teach your Mom to take care of the budgies while you are gone for the weekend. Remember that your parents, while they do not get along with each other, love you, so if you ask nicely and point out about the cold, you may very well be able to persuade your Mom to help out a bit. You could offer to do something extra for her, like set the table a couple times a week or something like that.
In fact, she might grow to enjoy budgies and that is always a plus, to have parents who like your pals.
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I agree with Lucille that it would be best for your budgie to remain in one stable environment rather than being transported back and forth to two different residences on a regular basis. Exposure to extreme temperature changes will adversely affect your budgies' health and wellbeing.
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This kind of situation (waiting outside at a bus stop for an undetermined amount of time) is really not ideal for a budgie-- drastic change in temperature (like coming from a heated house to outside) is really dangerous for their fragile immune systems. I would hope that you can talk to your parents and select a permanent home for your budgie with one of them--at least during winter months.

I know in my city, animals are not technically allowed on public transit. Although most bus drivers will look the other way, you also run the risk that the driver will not even allow you on board with your budgie.

Also-- the plan you've outlined is really unsafe. Many space heaters are very dangerous for birds, as they are often coated with teflon and emit fumes that could kill a budgie. And birds (or anyone, really) should not be in super close contact with them as it could cause burns or injury. Also, a shoe box is not a great way to transport a budgie. The lid could come off, or he could chew his way though.

I know it must be difficult for you to make plans for your little buddy, and good for you for thinking ahead and trying to keep him safe-- but without a car, I just don't think there is a safe way to do this.
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I am inclined to agree with all the great points our friends have made. I know your concerned with your bird's welfare or you wouldn't be asking. If you are just going for the weekend twice a month, your bird will be fine staying home. A good clean water fill up with some ACV in it and plenty of fresh seeds/pellets will hold your little friend well for a couple days...
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I agree with above to not take bird out in cold unless of an emergency.
Start saving for a small hospital transport cage it will cost around 20 dollars and you may be able to find a good deal on the net with your parents help. On amazon you can get a hard plastic pet snuggle which you stick in the microwave. for 5 minutes and it will hold comfy temp for up to 8hours. You can place it under the cage or above or against the side side close to where the bird sleeps but leave room for bird to move away if it gets too warm. The snuggle disk comes with a soft cover and you can buy replacements. We are using one that we got for our puppy 20 years ago and it works fine.We use for toe warmers in bed and Christmas gifts. if you must take bird out side put in a small cage or box with flaps on top Fold flaps together and tape down to insure bird will not escape if dropped. punch holes about eye level for the budgie. line it with a soft towel covered with paper towels place a bowl of seed on bottom and carry a bottle of water to put in cage when arrive at vet or wherever. I would use bottled water so the bird does not get diarrhea from water changes. once bird is secure in box put snuggle over top or under box /cage and wrap all around except one area near air holes.It would be good to put the bird in a waterproof bag to keep out breeze. Space blankets are great to wraparound box because they reflect heat back into the cage or box.
At home put a blanket or throw over back top and sides of the home cage.
you can use another for cover during sleep time If it gets cold or drafty in house position cage away from draft We use a heat only ceramic light with a reflector no higher than 60wats and with a reflector do not let bird out with light on . Turn it off and be sure bird cannot land on reflector and burn its feet. You can also fill a sock with dry seeds like peas and microwave to make a cheap heat source it will last a while but not 8 hours. You can hang sock outside the cage next to where the bird perches at night. cover with space blanket to hold heat in. you could use a hot water bottle covered by a towel. . The snuggle has no wires to plug in or cause a fire and lasts a while . When you leave your bird set up 3 days of seed so all your mom has to do is put seed in the cage. Have your water bottle of room temp spring water by the cage so all your mom has to do is replace clean water. put an extra tray of food and water in the cage in case your mom forgets If your bird cage is near telephone you can call and leave him a message. You cold leave a radio on low so the house is not totally silent while budgie is alone. It is a lot to prepare but once it is set up it will only take a few minutes a day to be sure budgie has food and water. Any time your mom spends with budgies is a gift for both of them. Spending a few minutes with Budgie when you are tired from a hard day can be good medicine.

Show your mom the posts here on TB so she can help you prepare the the cage and whatever heat source you decide on. Remember it is better for budgie to stay home so it is not confusing and potentially too cold to transport budgie. Best wishes on working this out with your mom. Jo Ann
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Thank you for all your help and replies, but unfortunately, during the weekend my mom goes away to visit my step dad, so no one will be home to take care of Angel. I have no other choice than to take him to my dad's house.
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Do you only go to your Dad's for the weekend and then back home? As in leave on Friday and return Sunday night or Monday morning?

If so, you are better off leaving your budgie at home for the 2-3 days you will be gone.

Make sure you have plenty of food for him, and get him used to drinking from a water silo or water bottle so he will have fresh clean water while you are away.

This will be much safer than trying to transport him to/from your Dad's house multiple times per month. The shock of the extreme temperature changes is going to be extremely stressful for him and public transportation is not likely to be the easiest or best way to move him back and forth.
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What is the largest immediate temputure change budgies can withstand without getting harmed?
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What is the largest immediate temputure change budgies can withstand without getting harmed?

It depends on many factors.

It seems to me that you came here asking opinion, and when one person after another said that this sort of frequent transportation was unsafe, you did not want to listen to those concerned, informed opinions and seem to be grasping for any possible reason to do what you originally planned.

This isn't opinion about, for instance, what color to paint your bedroom, where it just doesn't matter if you listen or do what you want.
This is opinion about the safety of a small critter that depends on you for everything.

If there is a bus ride between your Mom's and your Dad's, ask for bus money and if the time the budgies will be alone is more that two days or so, YOU take the bus back to Mom's and check on them.
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