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Old 09-21-2015, 05:24 PM
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Hi everyone.

As some of you may have seen, we have two female budgies currently in quarantine.
They are still fairly young and one is bossier than the other but the other girl stands her ground.

In the few days that Jimmy and Jay have been together, they are really bonding well together. It's really adorable and although they are still getting used to one another, they are getting alone really well.

But I'm wondering if anyone can give me an idea with what to expect when the girls eventually 'move in'? I know personalities of the birds will be a huge part of it, but will Jimmy and Jay's bonding be changed by the addition of females?
Will they bond with the girls?

The girls don't seem to have any closeness at all. They're just in a cage together.

I can't have a permanent cage to keep the girls apart as the cage I got for the boys is so big but I'm really anxious that adding the females is going to change things because it will instinctively change the males behaviour.

If they didn't get along, could two females be kept together?
And would the boys adjust back to normal if it didn't work out with the girls.

Just so you know, I was also this anxious about Jimmy and Jay living together. It turned out great but I like to work with 'worse case scenarios' just in case.

Thanks in advance.

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The dynamics will definitely change when you add the girls to the cage -- we just can't predict "HOW" they will change.

The boys remain bonded to one another
The each of the boys may bond to a female
Both boys may try to compete for the same female
The females may decide to compete for one of the boys
The females may try to boss the boys around
The females may ignore the boys

As you can see, there are lots of possibilities and no way of knowing ahead of time.

Be sure to have the cages next to one another for a few days before introducing the females to the males in neutral territory.

If you aren't pleased with the dynamics of having all four in one cage after you try them that way, then you can keep the two females in one cage and the boys in another.
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Deborah is absolutely correct, there is no way of knowing. You can stack the odd's in your favor by getting as big a flight cage as you have room for and can afford. You also need to let them have some introduction/get to know each other time for awhile before you try housing them all together. Throw in a diet that is sensitive to not promoting breeding condition, keep daylight hours to 12 or less, and don't provide anything that could be construed as a nest. Keep us informed on the progress, I house two hens and two cocks together without problems...
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How exciting for you and your flock! Things are going to be await and see situation as Deborah has pointed out. What ever happens it is going to be much noisier and more fun to watch all of the goings on in your flock of four!
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I agree with everything said above.......you just won't know until they are living together! How do you plan on introducing them?

In my experience with 3 boy and 1 girl.......Loshi & Rio (2 boys) were first then I added Robyn about 6 months after and flirts with them both. Whoever is he boy at the moment is who she protects and the next day it may be the other one. Now we have a 3rd boy and now Robyn & Loshi have bonded though they all get along and Robyn still flirts with Rio.....

It all just really depends on so many factors! Take the intros slow is the best advice I can give you!!
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Thanks for all the feedback. I know it's impossible for anyone to tell me exactly what will happen but this list of possibilities is really helpful. I find I'm much more reassured by knowing what potentially can happen.

Melissa, I plan to take the introduction nice and slowly as advised here. Once the quarantine is over I shall leave them to acclimatise in their own cages for about a week. I'll see what they choose to do when they meet, cage wise. I won't just throw them in a cage together.
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