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Old 09-22-2015, 06:30 AM
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Default Female budgies bonding together!!

Hi i have four budgies.
Out of the four 3 are female as i got it confirmed from d members on talkbudgies in my last posts.
Two of the femals stay together, preen each other and one day even i caught them trying to mate .
What can i conclude from it?
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Old 09-22-2015, 07:11 AM
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The budgie on the first photo is a female. I'm unable to open your second photo you have attached, but I did take a look at your previous threads and you do have 3 females and 1 male.
I have also advised you to remove all nesting pots from the cage because all of your budgies are very young and matings/raising a family is not at all recommended at their age and this is something to be discouraged for their health.
They are still in the process of growing up and being mature. They first reach adulthood at 1 year old and that is the minimum recommended age to allow budgies to breed and raise a family.
By allowing premature breeding of a very young budgie pair, you are putting your females at serious health risks and the chances of the getting egg bound and having much lower life expectancies are at risk. Not to mention the potential chicks that have higher chances of hatching with very poor overall health.
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The budgie on the first photo is a female. I'm unable to open your second photo you have attached, but I did take a look at your previous threads and you do have 3 females and 1 male.
I have also advised you to remove all nesting pots from the cage because all of your budgies are very young and matings/raising a family is not at all recommended at their age and this is something to be discouraged for their health.
They are still in the process of growing up and being mature. They first reach adulthood at 1 year old and that is the minimum recommended age to allow budgies to breed and raise a family.
By allowing premature breeding of a very young budgie pair, you are putting your females at serious health risks and the chances of the getting egg bound and having much lower life expectancies are at risk. Not to mention the potential chicks that have higher chances of hatching with very poor overall health.

I have removed d cage and they were trying to mate in d normal cage only
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Just as teenagers play at sex, it is always better to wait till their bodies mature to handle having a baby. Budgies practice and play long before it is time to have a nest. My first budgies were Americans. Unlike the budgies you see in the pet store we let them stay with their parents so that they could learn how to be grown up budgies. We watched the FIDS gather round in a half circle hanging off the wire and watched as their parents actually demonstrated he mating process. Most budgies do not have families so they stumble along and finally nature helps them get it right. So remember, your new little ones are struggling to learn the things they would normally learn from parents and older siblings in the wild. But people tear them away from their families and wonder why they misbehave? They do not know and people are not the mom and dad and do not have patience and so the fearful babies can react and bite and generally act out like teenagers. Or with your love and patience you can help them be wonderful sweet companions. At age of 1yr they still have another year of growing to complete into adult hood . Their health and longevity will increase markedly if you allow them to grow up fully before considering a nest box. Ana Is giving great guidance. Eventually the hens cere will change to the proper color for mating and you will see changes brought on by hormones. This may occur in conjunction with a molt so this will add additional health issues for them to deal with. If they spat separate the hens for a while. As they grow past 2 years old the hormone demands will become less and the hens will have smoother personalities. Blessings Jo Ann
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Interesting Jo Ann! We don't always think about those things . The Fids watched the mating demonstration but you're right that's how they learn everything unless they're torn away early to become pets!

I have to remember that with Mink, she's just a little kid at 5 1/2 months old, when she gets cranky and does a pecking motion with her head while she's in her cage (telling me to go away) lol. It's so funny looking.
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I will always be thankful that Kiwi and Scampers let us be part of their little family. I really saw why we have il tempered budgies that bite. And I really appreciated how patient the parents were teaching the FIDS. Originally we did not want scampers to have a nest box, but she simply insisted. For more than a week she sat on a perch next to their hanging ladder and shook that ladder till the whole cage shook. We gave in and gave her one of the side hanging kabobs with an off center hole started on the top side. In 3days of nonstop work day and night she persistently chewed out the interior piece by piece and later she kept the nest clean by tossing the baby droppings out piece by piece. She never let kiwi into the nest but he stood sentry right by the nest, feeding her and eventually feeding the FIDS. Skampers also fed the kids during weaning. None of the chicks was pecked or attacked in any way.

This tells me that man has really played mental havoc with Budgies so they can be sold as throw away 20 dollar birds, and then turned the English budgies into long soft feathered birds with less chest under down to keep them warm and distorting the mating season till cocks and hens develop distorted personalities. We have to now trim the vent feathers for the English to be able to mate properly. no problem with the Americans. They "practice" so much that the feathers are temporarily rubbed away. I highly recommend any one who insists on breeding to carefully pick a compatible pair of Americans and give them a kabob type nest . There were 6 hatched eggs and a second 5 clutch and all of the chicks plus hen grew to full size cuddled in that small space. I would not do this to the English. We give ours full size boxes, and we really clean the nest box every day or 2 after the eyes open and the chicks start to move around. Not every pair will be so insistent to make a nest but I think I was supposed to see what a real budgie family is like. As much as possible we let our English have as much contact as possible with parents and when they go to the big baby cage in the walk in aviary, we hand pick several sweet tempered cocks to teach the chicks to grow up. We do not mix our chicks with adult flock till they are a minimum of 9 months old. More often it is a year as the current year babies get ready to graduate to the walk in flghts. When things go out of wack and we have to separate the parents, we still work with the chicks to avoid the pecking problems many people experience. This is in part from the chicks having to fight among themselves for food and water and not to be picked on. We simply do not allow this to happen in our flock. We make sure there are several feeding centers and water spouts and we give lots of extra attention to babies that are vigorous peckers. This is called beaking and is fine and part of the play among chicks and we can play too as the chicks need lots of cuddles, even after they successfully declare their independence . this is a tremendous bonding process. that is why when a Hand feed bird is so expensive I try to remind them what a careful breeder like Lindsey does and well earns every penny for one of her birds. Blessings, Jo Ann.
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