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Since Mink is my first female budgie, it brings up a question. She isn't mature yet, but wondering for the future...

Do ALL (healthy) females start getting the tan or brown cere upon maturity, regardless of whether conditions are right for them to come into breeding mode?

Looking at females who I know are mature, WHY do some consistently keep the brown cere, even if they are single pets? What keeps it brown even if there are no nesting conditions around the cage? On others, what makes the cere come in and out of color rather than staying brown?

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Generally speaking, females will first come into condition by the time they are 6 months old and this is regardless of the weather/season.
This is something that happens naturally even when there is not a mate nor a nesting site and it can be compared to a woman's menstrual cycle.
There are of course some exceptions to the rule, some females may take a few months longer to reach full breeding condition for the first time.
The time a hen stays in condition will depend on the way the body works internally. Some hens can display the dark brown cere for long periods of time (months in a row and even years in some cases), while others come and go out of condition every 2 or 3 months.
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Thank you Ana . Is it only during the "dark brown cere" times that they can develop and lay eggs? If the cere is the normal light color, is that a "safe" time where you could assume she is not feeling 'eggy'? I do NOT want eggs btw.
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And yes, when they are in full breeding condition their bodies are better prepared for eventual matings (same thing goes for behaviour as they are more receptive to the males advances during courtship) and for potential egg production. In most cases, if breeding is not encouraged, no eggs will be laid.
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I find that my mothers lose their brown when they lay eggs. Until they lay eggs, they usually keep their brown. But I don't know if that's the same for all of them or not.
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This is helpful to know for me too as I have Sage and Sunny who will be living with Jimmy and Jay in a few weeks and I'm *so* nervous about everything to do with it.
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One of my hens comes into condition a couple times a year for a short period of time, and then revert's back to light/tan color. The other is the exact opposite and only seems to come out of condition for short time....
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One of my hens comes into condition a couple times a year for a short period of time, and then revert's back to light/tan color. The other is the exact opposite and only seems to come out of condition for short time....
Interesting... and this is within the same constant environment I'm assuming. So like Ana said, different individuals bodies will react differently.

Ana, I noticed you said around 6 months old it can start happening? Mink's cere shown no sign of change, and is 7 months old, and is not even halfway done with her first molt, and still has dark eyes. Is she maybe a late bloomer? I know you said some can take several months longer... how common is that (to take longer)?
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OK... so... hoping this doesn't make for confusion...
Lemony... yes. Recessive pied/opaline. Her cere NEVER seems to change. It is pink... though it does go very pale sometimes. Not a hint of brown, beige, ecru, tan...
And she seems to be in condition frequently. Maybe she has a hormonal imbalance (I'm trying Releave with her right now)?? Or is it different w/pieds??
++ In the sig photo, she is on the far right.
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I love Lemony, Judy! She reminds me of my Twigs or Therm's Jimmy.
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