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Old 10-08-2015, 05:23 PM
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Hey everyone. Ziggy's always been a little "special", but it's gotten way out of hand. He probably masturbates at least a dozen times a day. Heck, I think he once masturbated for eight minutes! He also has three females that he's claimed (Samantha, Alice, and Lara), and he often loses it when one of the boys talks to them. However, that's not all. He once tried to mate with Juey against his will, and has also tried to mate with Pollo on more than one occasional.

But that's not the worst of it. He's been intimidating Juey for a few months now, too, but Juey just wants to be friends. Not only has he been trying to force himself on Alice and the boys, but he's even started tormenting Pollo for the last week. I mean, Pollo had been holding Ziggy off, but the past few days he's been awful.

Ziggy's been launching himself at Pollo, biting him and throwing him to the bottom of the cage. He literally launches himself at the little guy, slams into him, grabs on, and sends him falling to the bottom of the cage! I mean, Pollo will just be sitting there, kissing Rumi, then this dark look will wash over Ziggy's face. He just keeps chasing him around the cage, biting him, grabbing onto him with his feet, and taunting him! Even when Pollo tries to get away, Ziggy chases him and assaults him! Heck, it's so bad that Pollo will actually go crashing to the bottom of the cage, and Ziggy will go to the bottom of the cage and start running after him!

I mean, Ziggy's not constantly doing this, but he's being really mean. He will actually go near Pollo and look at him menacingly, just daring Pollo to try to get away.

The boys are on edge and the girls are getting annoyed by his advances. I mean, one minute Ziggy will be goofing around with the boys, and the next he'll be trying to maim them! I'm going to stick him in a separate cage once it's dark out, but that's only a temporary fix and doesn't solve the problem.

The others just want to be friends with him, and I think he also wants to be friends with them, but he just can't seem to control his hormones. He's always been very outgoing and energetic, but now he's unpredictable.

They get 14 hours of darkness, a full spectrum UV light (the UVA and UVB output aren't THAT strong), sprouts (millet, canary, flax, lentils, mung beans, and I just started giving them wheat, spelt, and buckwheat again), veggies, and their cage is big which allows for plenty of exercise.

Oh, he's at it again. He really wants to beat Pollo up. What do I do? Should I just accept the fact that he's no longer able to behave, and just hand tame him? It's just unfair because he really enjoys being part of a flock, but it isn't fair for the other boys to feel unsafe in their own cage.

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Old 10-08-2015, 07:06 PM
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As aggressive as it seems it's gotten, I would first separate Ziggy from the rest of the flock. No need to let the rest of them get hurt. Reduce his sunlight to try and throw him or of being condition, and help regulate his hormones. Another thing you could try is Releaves. Heal-X makes it and if seemed to settle my Lyla down after her eggs were discovered to be duds. But first and foremost, remove Ziggy into his own cage. He will likely behave like a toddler and throw a tantrum. Do not give in, but keep a good eye on his health. Cage covered on 3 sides to try and keep him calm. He will be stressed, but this is for his own good. Pepper went through withdrawal when I separated him and Lyla.

Hope this helps. Good luck!
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I think Kristen has given you great advice. A little time out is in order...
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Kristen's advice to you sounds good . That Ziggy sure is a macho thing he's trying to conquer the entire flock! Wow, even throwing Pollo to the ground! Those fights get pretty serious when breeding/nesting (or potential) is involved. Good luck, keep us posted on this. Which one is Ziggy, the green normal?
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Yep, Ziggy's the green normal, next to yellow Rumi. He's such a bad little boy! Honestly, he was so friendly and well behaved when I first got him, but now he's being a terror! I honestly can't believe how dominating he's being with Pollo! Heck, just a few weeks ago those two were BFFs .

On a good note, I was able to easily transfer the green little devil to the separate cage. Just had to turn off the lights, then grab him. He's not a biter either . Well, he doesn't bite humans, at least.

Kristen, I would definitely like to thank you for the advice. I'm definitely looking into the Releaves, and I'll probably place an order with mysafebirdstore.com.

I'm going to definitely be giving him a lot of attention since he'll probably be upset and start going into sex withdrawal. I was a meanie and I didn't put his "toy" in his new cage .

I'll definitely keep you guys updated. Oh! I forgot to mention that Pollo and Rumi are a lot happier and relaxed now that I removed Zig. Pollo's the fourth one on the top row of budgies. I think Juey looks a bit more relaxed, too.
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I'm glad you plan to follow Kristen's great advice!

I'll be very interested to hear if the Releaves helps with Ziggy's over-active urges.
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Well, Ziggy started his neurotic pacing again. I took his flight cage out of the budgie room so he'd quit pacing, but now he keeps doing his contact call whenever he hears them. I'm running out of options here. If I keep him in the same room as the others, he constantly paces. If I put him in a different room, he calls out to them whenever he hears them. If I put him back in the double-flight with the others, he's going to start harassing the boys again! This is incredibly stressful.
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I'm glad you separated him. This is for the best. He will settle down eventually. Pepper does the same thing with the incessant pacing. It's ok, just try to ignore that and don't acknowledge it. He is only doing this to get you to feel bad enough for him to put him back in his original home. Keep him there for at least a month. If you can't tolerate to flock calls, you can keep him in the same room, but try to keep the others out of direct sight if possible. As long as he hears that they are close by, he should be fine. Pepper was fine, and Ziggy will be fine as well. He is lovely btw.

mysafebirdstore.com is a great place to order from. Plus if you list the other animals you have they include treats and toys. My cat always ends up with a new mouse toy to beat up, and my mother in law's dogs get little bones. And they don't ever forget my birdies, they get some toys to! They are Chinese finger traps filled with crinkle paper strips. I haven't tried them yet because I haven't found a good way to hang them. Good luck!
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I love mysafebirdstore.com! I bought over $150 of budgie stuff from them one time. You can hang the Chinese finger traps using a stainless steel skewer, or a stainless steel link. I have a skewer in their cage with a Chinese finger trap, pieces of paper, paper towel, etc. I also wrapped some pieces of spray millet in some paper and stuck the skewer through it.

My new kids, Rumi, Lara, and Pollo are hardcore chewers. Mainly Rumi and Lara, though. Rumi can shred one of those big Ole Kabobs in less than a week, so I'm getting desperate for shredding ideas .

Anyways, Ziggy has calmed down, and he's been playing and chattering.
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Oh fun! I'm so glad to hear that he's adjusting well. Meanwhile, Pepper's been riding the mating train here, with Misty no less. Which is kinda weird. I think she's only doing it for something to do because she's never really shown much interest in him otherwise. I'm a little surprised that it happened while they were having out of cage time. Anyway, I am just elated that Zig has calmed down!
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