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With examples of my lifestyle, as well as the other animals living in the house, I am looking for honest opinions if I would make a good home for a budgie.

As it was with my dog, I'm having that moment of panic right before adding in a new addition to my busy little family. So, any honest help would be greatly appreciated, even if I don't make the right environment.

I want to provide him with the best possible life, even if it means it wouldn't be with me. I may be getting the jitters right before the commitment.

About BB8: BB8 (named by the employees) was determined to be a young male on this forum. He seems very sweet and curious as I watched him in his unit. I was allowed to interact with him. He chirped while I held him, and allowed me to pet his chest. He was a little head shy (understandable) being a baby, but was social enough to step up and interact with me and the employees. I admire his pretty plumage and he really caught my eye. Overall he looks healthy. No crusty nose, very bright alert eyes and active.

About Me:
I'm a busy body. I work 8 hours Mon-Friday, and take martial arts for an hour an evening on Usually Tuesdays and Thursdays. I love being outdoors (yard work, beach, running etc) during the weekends, and weekend evenings either out at a movie, or having friends over for gaming. I'm pretty high energy, and tend to want to have something to do rather than nothing. I make sure though to make time for my house chores, enjoying dinner with the husband, and spending time with my dog outdoors while the cats join me for some quality time watching some shows later.

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BB8 would have a Vision Bird Cage
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He would have a variety of perches - different sizes for his feet and textures. The best one that he likes towards the top. I also intend to get him a bird bath attachment, and possibly a mirror that I can record my voice in.

His housing would start off in the guest room, slowly making it's way out into the living room. The reason for the movement would be due to my other pets.

Current Pets
Gizmo - 20 year old cat. We manage his special renal diet as well as hyperthyroid medication. He's old, but as a doctor once said, not that old. He still is spry and active despite being underweight (from hyperthyroid) and having a metal rod in his leg from breaking it last year (from a fall off a computer armoire). Luckily he did well for emergency surgery, and we have removed all tall cat posts and anything tall. He uses stairs now to get into the bed. He does chase lizards and watches the birds outdoors. He has lived with a bird previously and never paid it much attention or ever tried to run after it.

Sheena - 10 year old cat. She's sweet and loves to be a lap cat, but will also roll in dirt if I let her on the outdoor porch area or in the backyard. She also has lived with a bird previously, and like Gizmo once understanding it lives in the house did not pay it much attention. Never would go after it. She does hunt lizards as well though.

Stella - 5 year old Boxer. Very high energy. We run her at least 2 miles daily. She will chase smaller animals (not my cats, they are the boss of her), but has not once attacked any. She will run toward it, than stop once she reaches it. She is very good with 'Leave it' and won't touch the object / creature in question. She also knows the basics of sit, stay, laydown. The fun ones, roll over, back up, spin, paw, high five, kiss. The important one like 'focus' (pay attention to me only), drop it, leave it, give it. Though I'll be honest, because of her fast movements and high play drive I'm most concerned about her meeting the budgie. Obviously a very slow introduction over time, but because she is a good listener I feel a cautions introduction would result positively. Also when she is tired

Plans:
I would plan to make time for BB8 daily. During the day, I want to have soft music playing for him, with a mix of words to play back. I can make my own CDs if needed. After the workday, he would join in on the activity. I want to have a perch for him in the living room to watch and interact with us (my husband and I). After gaining his trust with step up and slowly introducing myself into his environment, I want him to be able to have his perch and explore around the house. I want to train him to speak (possibly) and later once we are on a good trustful level, learn some budgie tricks

I have an exotic vet, and can take care of his financial needs should they arise.

Thank you for reading this. It calmed my nerves a little. I'm still wanting opinions if that's ok.


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Old 04-12-2016, 04:30 PM
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First off BB8 is very pretty. This is just my opinion but the dogs energy level is worry some. No matter how well the dog is trained budgies are pray to every other animal out there and it is natural for dogs and cats to kill birds. The saliva in a dogs or cats mouth is deadly to birds not to mention being scatched. That being said people do keep dogs and cats together with birds. Just keep all three apart at all times.cats in one room, dog in another room when you are spending time with BB8 out of the cage.and when not home to watch them closely. I have read many sad stories of people loosing there birds being killed by the cat or dog.

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Firstly, I love the approach you are taking to owning a bird.

BB8 is very sweet looking. I'm wondering if your lifestyle would give you much time to spend with your bird. With all you want to do, training wise, which takes a lot of time (though the fact BB8 seems somewhat tame already is a great start) and effort.

What concerns me more is the pets. Two cats and a high activity dog that would need to be out of the room while you socialise with BB8. As Linda mentioned, birds are prey for cats and I'm wondering how your cats would feel if they were to be shut off suddenly. You have to consider if it's fair to the cats to allow a bird into the house as well. If they have free reign of the house, to suddenly stop that may be a little unfair to them. The same with the dog. he would need to be crated on in a different room while your budgie is out.

Personally, I'm not sure the plans would work for you and your current pets. Perhaps you could consider the spare room to be a birds permanent home if the other animals are not allowed in.
I would also not advice getting a lone budgie and a mirror as this can confuse and cause upset to the budgie.
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Greetings,you've just gotten some wonderful advice from our wonderful folks here.it sure is a beautiful budgie though.he had a interesting name lol.like everyone has said if you do bring him to your home.keep him away from the other pets.blessings and I wish you well.
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I agree with everything that's been said

I think one of the most important thing to consider is how your other animals will take to this new change.

You clearly have the love, space, and financial means to give BB a forever loving home, and I'm sure he'd love being fortunate to live with you.

However, with other animals in the house, he won't ever be able to just "roam around" freely. You will have to isolate him from the other animals, in his cage at all times and to be honest, the cats should not even be allowed in the room even when he is caged, as cats are known to jump on cages and tip them or stick their paws through the bars. One swipe and a budgie can be easily killed.

You can install a lock inside the room so that when you're in there with him and he's flying around, someone else in the family doesn't accidentally walk in and let the cat or dog in.

If you have a nice room for him to live in with a door that is closed unless you are in the room, and closed when he is out of his cage, and you can spend time with him often, then it could work. But if you're unable to guarantee his safety, either with space limitations or otherwise, then I wouldn't bring him home at this time.

Also, I can see that you're very busy. I have a similar schedule, in fact. However, I spend every free minute either working next to Mallorn's cage, having her out on my shoulder during that time or just sitting with her. She is my entire focus when I'm home because I'm gone for the greater part of most weekdays, and because we've developed such a strong bond, she's perfectly happy with our arrangement because during the day she's able to keep herself entertained and others in the house are around to chat with her.

However, with your other animals, they may be used to getting your attention, and it may be awkward for everyone involved to cater to each of your pet's social and emotional needs when your time is already spread so thin.

If he's in his room by himself, even with the radio or TV on, he could get lonely if it's not a high traffic area. The best option I see would be to make the spare room into an office of sorts, where you can do extra work, write emails, etc. Then, you can be in there a large part of your time at home, or others can utilize the room to do their work, and can chat with BB while they do so. The requirement for a closed door makes for a good "study space"

I do think this could work--but I would just be sure to consider all options and exactly what your schedule with him would be if you'd like to bring him home.
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As much as I would love to tap into my inner enabler, I just can't in this situation. It just comes down to availability of space, and time, and I know if I were in an identical situation, I would not get a bird at this time. I agree with everything said here. I'm basically the poster child for enablers everywhere, but the welfare of the animal always must come first.

I think the way you're going about this is admirable, and probably better than most that I hear about elsewhere. That's amazing, and I would have to give you Karma for that in itself. You're thinking is clear, and systematic, which is a great combination when thinking of taking in another animal, of any kind. I believe you would be an excellent budgie owner, but as was said before, getting only one with a mirror could prove to be problematic. IF you are going to proceed with your plan to bring BB8 home, I suggest your prepare some things to ensure his safety in your full home.

Signs to be put on doors to let others know your bird(s) are out, and a slide lock for the door to the room with BB8 in it, just to start. Make sure you are using budgie safe cookware, batteries are new in smoke and carbon monoxide detectors, as well as budgie proofing the rest of your home. Cats and dog should be in separate rooms, or the same room provided they get along just fine. As long as they are far away from your bird room it should be fine.

Another thing to think about is bedtime arrangements. Sometimes budgies have night frights, and go crazy in their cages until you settle them down. Will you be able to hear them where the bird room will be? Can you get to them before they hurt themselves, and not risk your cats or dog getting in the room also? I don't want to diminish your desire to get BB8, but these are all things that you should take into consideration before bringing him home. My flock sometimes has night frights, and I thank God everyday that their cages are in our bedroom, and close to the bed. We used to have them in the living room, and let me tell you. Not only could we barely hear them, but getting to them in the dark across the house was a huge pain in the rear.

You'll of course need to assemble a budgie first aid kit. There is a list here: https://talkbudgies.com/your-budgies-...t-aid-kit.html And that is just a start. There are many other resources to find thing to in your kit.

And let me just say that BB8 is stunning. If you think you can provide the necessary care for BB8, I think it would be a great fit. Just think of his welfare before your own desires.

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I too would be concerned with the arrangements. You could never have the budgie out if cats and dog were in the room - it only takes a split second. You could never leave them unattended.
The busgie would never be able to have free roam of the house. Its not practical in most situations and certainly not with other pets.

Time would be a big issue. I think youd be spreading yourself a bit thin tbh to try and add a bird in. They require a lot of interaction and given how active you are and with your other guys i just dont think it would be fair on the little one.
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I just love BB8!

I am like you... Nearly every minute of every day is accounted for with work, activities, or sleeping. If there are a few minutes of nothing, I don't know what to do! We have a lot of pets, but I really do not want it any other way (although, we are at the absolute pet max right now...).

We do not have cats, but we do have 3 big indoor/outdoor dogs, all high energy. 2 of 3 cared less about the birds even when we first got them, and during supervised out of cage play time, those two nearly have gotten landed on and never even bothered to lift their heads. The third dog is our wicked smart APBT. He was very, very curious and worried when we got the first two birds and would whine whenever he heard them chirping. After a few weeks, he ignored them completely and still ignores them. I guess he know what they are now and that they are not going away.

However, it totally depends on your dog's prey drive. Our friends have a small terrier that I would never trust remotely near a bird cage, let alone during supervised out of cage time. And cats add a whole different challenge!

I have to say, I hope you are able to make this work out! Best of luck in whatever you decide.
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