Budgies don't like each other

damag · #1 05-21-2016, 09:54 PM

Hi, I would like my female budgie to have a lovely male friend that she will accept but at the same time I would like him to be hand tamed.

The truth is that the breeder only sell wilds babies or adult budgies. Should I get a baby in order to be able to hand tame him and then after two months join him with the adults female budgie or should I just get a male adult budgie and worked on hand taming him?

I'd rather get a baby and then introduce him to the adult female but maybe is not a good idea. On the other hand I actually got an adult male who doesn't like me and is not hand tamed and my female doesn't like him either. My actual male is from small breed and my female really dislike him.
And it frustrate me that I can not hand tame him. If his out of the cage he comes to my hands but if his inside the cage he gets scared and I have to grab him. It is so frustrating that's why I'm thinking of getting a new male

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**FaeryBee** · #2 05-21-2016, 10:12 PM

damag,

I'm going to talk to you very directly as I would a very close friend.
You've asked for advice and I'm going to tell you the truth as I perceive it.

The first mistake you are making is by grabbing your male when he is in his cage. Everytime you grab him, you break whatever little trust he has in you. Allowing your budgie to choose when and if he wishes to leave his cage is the proper way to work with him.

Taming and bonding takes time and patience. It requires you work at your budgie's pace, however slow that may be.
Additionally, if it turns out you have a budgie that prefers not to be touched, then you need act in a mature and responsible manner.
Owning a pet means doing what is in the pet's best interest, not trying to make it conform to what you want it to be.

I do not think you should get any other budgies, male, female, babies or adults.

I truly believe you need to learn as much about the budgies you currently have and how to give them the best possible care rather than thinking about getting more.

I believe the idea of a lovely male friend for your female is more about what you want than what your female needs or wants.
There is a very good chance your female will not accept any other budgie.
She may well prefer being a solo bird.
Additionally, putting a male with the female would mean you would have to discourage egg laying.
Your female has been through too much in her short life to ever consider breeding her.

If you truly want to tame and bond with your budgies, then take a look at the various threads in the taming and bonding section of the forum.
Work at your budgie's pace and stop trying to force him to behave in the way you want him to.
Learn to respect him as a living creature with his own unique personality and love him just as he is.

damag · #3 05-25-2016, 11:29 PM

FaeryBee thanks for your words. You are right about it. I have started reading all the articles. Yes, I need to respect my budgies as living creatures.If you were me, you would never breed my female? Why? Thank you

How do you discourage egg laying? They hang out together but at night they sleep in different cages one in front of the other.

**RavensGryf** · #4 05-25-2016, 11:49 PM

Try to look at it this way... Breeding takes a ton of knowledge and preparation. Carefully selecting each bird for health, temperament, and specific characteristics.. diet to support laying and healthy chicks.. Proper cage set up.. day/night schedule, temp/humidity.. what to do if something goes wrong and you need to intervene.. what if you're lucky and get healthy chicks - what would be your plan for their future. I don't breed, and I won't pretend to know anything about it, but I know that these basic things (plus a lot more) must be met before one should even begin to consider it.

I think it's a blessing that Ibi is safe at home and healthy once again. It's a blessing that she is a tame budgie who loves you. That's super special right there, as not all budgies are as sociable to humans as Ibi is. Can you see that? I sure hope so

. You have a precious little doll, and I think she is happy with you as her friend. Work with the wild male in a manner that FaeryBee talked about above, and let go of any expectations. I wish you the best.

Here is a good link to read to discourage eggs. https://talkbudgies.com/budgie-breedi...want-eggs.html

damag · #5 05-26-2016, 01:35 AM

Thanks for your reply. I can't get rid of guiltiness. I'm the only responsible for all the accidents that had suffered my female baby budgie. I grow and learn with her. I love her endlessly and she knows that. She is a special baby and a pretty tough one. I had a really rough time when she escaped but my heart never lost hope. I still feel bad about all the things she have been through but even though she is adorable she is also a difficult budgie even for the avian vet. She is strong and fight for her life whenever the vet try to hold her for the check up. When she flew in an odd way and broke two wings and I was told to clean the blood with peroxide. I tried to do my best and even use a towel to hold her but she moved and end having peroxide on her eyes. That was scary indeed and I immediately wash her eyes with water and then chamomile. She hates to be hold in any way. She is not an easy budgie but she let me hold her more than anyone. She hates all avian vet even if it is man or woman. But she loves me and the new male has started to trust me.

Basically I got the male so that Ibi my female baby won't escaped again. A friend told me that perhaps as she was ready to mate she escaped looking for a partner and as anxious I was, I went right away and got a budgie. I don't know if I'm going to keep him. I don't want to breed budgies. Most people have discourage from doing it. Maybe they think I will have more accidents. I do know and need to learn more to be a better budgie mom.

Basically I think I rush into getting a a budgie but it's okey. Ibi and I have been through a lot. This little guy' the male budgie is small and he seems weak but is healthy. I don't think of breeding cause I might travel abroad for a long period of time. By that moment I would probably need to keep only one to avoid egg laying.

I just want to forgive myself about all the things Ibi has been through but back again she is a miracle. It is God miracle. I pray and she is here with me .

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**RavensGryf** · #6 05-26-2016, 01:48 AM

I'm glad you have reconsidered about breeding, and that your little male is warming up to you now! Good to hear

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I don't agree with whoever told you that Ibi escaped 'to find a mate'. Birds no matter how bonded to your or to another budgie at home can still fly away if they are fully flighted and get the chance. I was so happy to hear when you got her back. That was a real miracle. Don't dwell on beating yourself up any longer. All of that is all over with, you've learned, now move forward and concentrate on the positive

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Glad you are open to learning all you can. We can all keep on learning,

and Talk Budgies is the best resource out there for anything 'budgie'

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**FaeryBee** · #7 05-26-2016, 08:47 AM

I'm very glad you are not planning to breed Ibi.
As I said before, I don't think you should get any more budgies. Spend your time with Ibi and the little male and get to know them and their personalities. Keep learning as much as you can. I learn new things about budgies every day!

Julie answered the questions you had perfectly.

damag · #8 05-26-2016, 10:53 AM

Yes, I don't want breed Ibi, she is my baby! actually now that she has a friend I miss her so I kidnap her for a while to play with her hahaha .
I'm actually thinking of traveling or living abroad for a while and in such Case I may consider keeping only one but who knows

Ibi is spoiled and demanding , and bebito is the serious one and calm