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Hello,

I recently became a budgie owner a couple of weeks ago, I got a single female(I believe). Shes made great progress, already climbing on my finger and starting to mimic noises I make to her. However she seems lonely and with how busy my life is I feel like I cannot give her enough time during the week so I was contemplating getting a second bird. Anyway, I saw an ad on craigslist, someone wanting to get rid of a pair of parakeets their son lost interest in after a month. After seeing them in a very small cage( 18 x 12) without any food or toys I had to adopt them, I believe they are two females. After picking them up it was pretty evident they weren't taken care of or properly fed. They were huddled together looking very scared, I could see their wings were clipped too short and sort of mangled looking, they don't appear to be sick, just probably due to lack of care and cleanliness. So I cleaned their cage and put some water and food in it. As soon as the food was in the cage they rushed for it and began eating.

Here is Luna:
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Pearl(white) & Alice(Blue) - rescue birds
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Luna's cage:
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Pearl and Alice's cage I got for them( I havent put the toys back in the cage)
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Anyway, I had them in quarantine for a couple of weeks and since the previous owner had them for over a month and they seemed well I decided to introduce them to my other bird, Luna. I let their cages sit next to each other for a couple of days. Since I live in a small apartment both cages take up a lot of space so I let them into the bigger cage with Luna. Luna was very excited and friendly acting to them, but Pearl was very aggressive and started bullying her, pecking at her and chasing her around the cage. Alice wasn't aggressive and seemed not bothered by Luna's presence. I came home today and noticed white marks on Luna's beak and after I saw Pearl peck at Luna again, I noticed more white marks(pictured above). Should I be worried about this? I decided to put both Pearl and Alice back in the other cage.

So currently I am torn what to do, do I leave them separated? for how long? Alice and Luna get along but since Alice and Pearl have been together for so long I feel bad separating them. Without them Luna seems lonely and depressed.

Thank you for any help
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I don't think I'd separate Alice and Pearl as they seem to be well bonded and that just seems cruel. I do applauded you for rescuing those poor babies. Maybe let Luna out of her cage to inspect the girls and then separately let the girls out to inspect Luna. If all goes smoothly for a while of doing that then maybe let them all meet out of cage and see how that goes?

I did learn myself that quarantine should be for at least 40 days.

All your birds are very pretty and I hope things smooth out as more time and a slower introduction process happens.
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Please be sure to observe quarantine for the new budgies.

Quarantine means housing your new bird in a different cage in a different room as far away as possible from the room where your current bird(s) are housed for a period of 30-45 days.
Budgies mask symptoms when they are ill. Symptoms may not show up for over two weeks.
Often you will not even realize your bird is not well. Many budgie illnesses are airborne which is why you need to quarantine your new bird in a completely different room.

It is also a good idea to always take a new budgie in to see an Avian Vet for a "well-birdie" check-up. This allows you to develop a good relationship with the vet and the vet can establish a baseline for your bird in case of any future illnesses or injuries.

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After the quarantine, then you can sit the cages next to one another for a few days. After that, try allowing Luna out to see if she is interested in the other birds. If you believe it to be safe, you and then introduce them in neutral territory under very close supervision.
If Pearl shows any aggression at all toward Luna, you will have to keep the birds separated on a permanent basis.
Not all birds get along. Three budgies can be difficult as well because sometimes two will bond and one will be left out.
As Pearl and Alice have been together and Alice got along well with Luna -- Pearl could well be acting out her jealousy and aggression toward Luna who she now views as "competition".

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I realize you have not put the toys back in Pearl and Alice's cage.
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Welcome to the forums!

I'm very sorry for the situation you are currently in.
You should take advantage of the quarantine time to keep on training Luna and to pay close attention to your rescued girls' behaviour in order to see if they truly get along well and are closely bonded to each other or not.
If by chance you notice that Pearl is also aggressive towards Alice, then you would know that housing Pearl alone on a separate cage would be the best option to ensure your other budgies' safety and welfare.

Depending on personality, housing two females in the same cage may not work, and housing an odd number of budgies who all happen to be females also raises the chances of fightings/disharmony in the flock.

With time, you will be in a better position to make the necessary arrangements which will benefit all of your budgies in the long run.
For now, you can continue to closely watch their behaviours and interactions.

Best of luck with everything!
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