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EllieMaeTatter 07-04-2016 03:07 PM

New budgie - need help!
 
My bird Mishka recently lost his mate so I got him another companion who is only 10 weeks old.

Now this new companion is eating, preening etc. BUT he sounds very sniffly, almost like he has water up his nose or something. He is constantly making a noise and as I said just sounds sniffly. There is no discharge coming from his cere, nor is he fluffed up.

Im not sure if he has just gotten water stuck or if he has a cold? He isnt showing any other signs of been ill but Im concerned for my other bird incase he does have a cold. Other than been sniffly he seems fine. Please can someone give me advice as to what it could be??

Again he is only 10 weeks old and my other bird is about 2 years, but I dont want them together if one is possibly ill.

PICTURE: https://imageshack.us/i/pn5xBiTJp

jean20057 07-04-2016 03:16 PM

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It's possible that your new budgie has some sort of respiratory problem. Possibly an infection. He needs to see an avian vet asap.

Did you quarantine your new budgie for at least 1 month before introducing him to you older budgie? This need to be done to prevent the spread of illness.

Also, the picture didn't come up.

EllieMaeTatter 07-04-2016 03:21 PM

I didnt isolate the new budgie no, but Ill separate them tomorrow as soon as I wake up. It wont be too late will it? I mean he isnt showing any other signs of been poorly, not fluffed up, hes eating/drinking , no discharge coming from his cere etc.

I know I should have isolated the new bird but I just wanted to give Mishka company asap when his mate died. So I didnt really think. Mishka seems to be fine, I just hope it isnt too late and he hasnt caught anything :( I also dont live near any avian vets at all, I live in a small seaside town.

aluz 07-04-2016 03:22 PM

I'm sorry for the recent passing of Mishka's mate. :(

I can tell you that the budgie in the photo is not 10 weeks old, he is much older.
His irises are already fully developed, he has clearly gone through his first moult.
Looking at him, I'd say he is at the very least close to reaching one year old.
Due to his colour mutation/genes, the colour on his cere has retained the immature colour.

The noise you mention, is it sneezing?
If your budgie has laboured breathing and you notice a pronounced tail bob and he keeps on sneezing/making the sniffling noise as you say, then it would really be best to have your budgie seen by an avian vet specialist.

Be sure to practice quarantine procedures during this time: https://talkbudgies.com/new-budgie-ar...necessary.html

immorgan 07-04-2016 03:34 PM

Like Aluz said, that is definitely not a 10 week old bird. I agree with everyone else is saying he needs to see a vet ASAP.
Is that discharge on the feathers above his cere? Or just a bit of discoloration?

EllieMaeTatter 07-04-2016 04:06 PM

I just put Mishka into a different cage (the cage was filthy so I had to bleach it and I washed it out very very well with cold water and dried) They are now in seperate cages. I was thinking Mo (white one) was older but the pet shop told me otherwise..they said 10 weeks..I just believe them. And there doesnt seem to be discharge as Iv had a look and he isnt bobbing his tail. Just sneezing/sniffly. They shared a cage for about 3 days..and as Iv said Iv only just seperated them. I am concerned as I bleached the cage (I recognise budgies are very sensitive to cleaning products etc) I did wash it out extremely well so there shouldnt be any residue on the cage at all, Im just so worried Iv stressed them both out and it might be too late to isolate them both. (They are kind of next to each other in different cages) I put Mishka in the clean cage and kept Mo in the other.

Please can someone help me further? Again I have no access to any avian vets here without having to drive hours most likely.

jean20057 07-04-2016 04:20 PM

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I'm sorry, but I don't really have much experience with respiratory issues, *knocks on wood*. But ideally the birds should be as far away from each other as possible, in a different room if it's feasible. I hope FaeryBee comes along to see this.She usually has pretty good luck with finding avian vets for people!

Oh, and I'm sorry for your loss of your other budgie. :( You of course have my condolences and sympathies for your loss.


Therm 07-04-2016 05:13 PM

Ellie, I'm sorry your new bird isn't doing well.

The best possible thing is to take him to an avian vets who can help with any illness he might have.
Also, as you have found out, pet shops rarely have a clue when it comes to budgies. I had to give my friend clear instructions on what to look for when she wanted to get a baby boy budgie and when she told the lady in the shop she wanted a boy and picked the one she wanted, the lady thought she was mad as she was convinced it was a girl!

Best of luck with your birds. :)

FaeryBee 07-04-2016 05:53 PM

To help with respiratory issues, you can put your budgie’s cage in the bathroom when you run hot water through the shower so the cage is in the hot steamy air -- that will help open the airways.

Another option is to tent the cage with a sheet and place a warm mist humidifier, crockpot, pot or kettle of boiling water, under the sheet where your budgie is unable to touch it and allow the steam to accumulate that way. If you have pure 100% eucalyptus essential oil, you can put one tiny drop into the water as that will also help to clear the airways so the budgie is better able to breathe.

As the other posters have indicated, it is always important to quarantine a new bird.

Quarantine means housing your new bird in a different cage in a different room as far away as possible from the room where your current bird(s) are housed for a period of 30-45 days.
Budgies mask symptoms when they are ill. Symptoms may not show up for over two weeks.
Often you will not even realize your bird is not well. Many budgie illnesses are airborne which is why you need to quarantine your new bird in a completely different room.

It is also a good idea to always take a new budgie in to see an Avian Vet for a "well-birdie" check-up. This allows you to develop a good relationship with the vet and the vet can establish a baseline for your bird in case of any future illnesses or injuries.

If there are no Avian Vets near you, your next best option is to seek out an Exotic Vet with experience in treating small birds.

Hopefully these links will help you locate a suitable veterinarian:

Avian Vets | Parrot Veterinary Services

Sick Birds - Avian Vets

YORKSHIRE:
Horrox Veterinary Group, Thorpe House, Kellythorpe Estate, Driffield,
East Yorkshire YO25 9DJ .
Vet: Nigel E Horrox BVM&S BA FRIPH MRCVS. Tel: 01337 241 9107

YORKSHIRE:
International Zoo Veterinary Group,
Keighley Business Centre, South Street, Keighley, Yorkshire BD21 1AG
Vets: Mr Andrew Greenwood MA.VetMB MRCVS + Ms Johanna Stom MRCVS Tel: 01535 692 0008

YORKSHIRE:
The Mount Veterinary Group 89 Middlecave Rd, Malton, Nth Yorkshire
YO17 7NQ Tel: 01653 600 079

Sending best wishes for your little budgie.
Please be sure to update us on his condition.

EllieMaeTatter 07-04-2016 07:23 PM

Thank you everyone!
 
Thank you everyone who commented! Im going to keep them in different cages for a couple of days until I can take them both to an avian vet! Both get them checked up :)

Hopefully they will both be okay for a few days!


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