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Old 07-09-2016, 11:49 PM
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Update on my old thread: https://talkbudgies.com/diseases-illn...aly-mites.html

Took Lucy to the vet, he clipped her nails, gave me a list of things she will need to supplement the vitamins she was lacking, and gave me the "ok" to put her with other birds as far as the mites go.

I regularly go into pet stores just to check up on birds because, I honestly love birds. I usually see one or two birds in the cramped cages that are obviously being mistreated and tell the clerks about them. I try and stay away from buying animals in chain stores because I don't believe huge companies that produce birds like rabbits should be supported, but since I was looking for a mate for my recently adopted budgie I thought I'd give one of these little guys a better chance at life since their beginning was a not-so-good one. I went ahead and bought this little guy (I think it's a male, I could be wrong, I was told it's only about 4 weeks old so sexing it is hard. Lucy loves him so it's probably a boy).




Lucy follows him everywhere. His wings are still clipped so when he fails to fly to the other perch she comes to the rescue.

I'm so glad I was finally able to retire Lucy's tiny old cage (she lived in it for over a year, I honestly do not understand how people can keep a bird in such a small cage). After taking her from the previous owner I had to keep her in there since she was in quarantine due to the mites she had. Now she's in a cage that is about 6 times bigger than her old one! I know y'all love pics so here they are!

Forgive the mess. It's been a long couple of weeks with all my pets, exams in college, and of course vet visits I haven't had enough time to clean out this particular cage.


There are no toys in here because they are currently in the trash (I believe that's the only way to know for sure that the mites are gone). Making/buying new ones tomorrow so don't worry, their lives will be full of joy!


The bigger cage is only temporary for the budgies, I'll move them out into the aviary I have in my backyard once the heat dies down a bit (it's been in the 110's lately).

I have a question, how many budgies could I house in the big cage? I wouldn't want it to be cramped like the ones in chain pet stores, I just want them to have several more friends. The cage's dimensions are (LWH "=Inches) 30"x18"x33".

P.s, Sorry about the pictures, I tried everything but could do nothing about the rotation of them.

Also, sorry about the long post. Had a great deal of information to get to you guys/gals!

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Hi there!

I'm so glad Lucy's all better from the mites, that's great to hear! Taking extra precautions with the mites by discarding the toys is also an excellent step

She certainly is a beautiful little girl and I can tell she's healthy and happy now

Congratulations on your new little bird! If you post clear pictures of his/her cere taken in natural light, we can confirm the gender for you

However, you really should have quarantined him from Lucy before they were introduced. Unfortunately, this is exactly how things like mites are contracted. The conditions that birds are kept in at pet stores (and even if they come from a breeder) can often have bacteria or illnesses that the budgie is carrying. Thus, a 40-day minimum quarantine period is required when bringing home any new bird to prevent the spread of possible illnesses to any other birds in the house.

Here's a link with more information:
https://talkbudgies.com/new-budgie-ar...necessary.html

Although you have technically already "broken quarantine", you still should separate them to give the new budgie time to settle in as well as to prevent illnesses that haven't shown up yet from spreading to Lucy, if they exist. They both will probably try to call for each other, but closing the door of the quarantine room and playing some music for both of them will help to assuage this.

After quarantine, you can introduce them again:
https://talkbudgies.com/new-budgie-ar...o-budgies.html

As for the new cage, it's very nice! However, it is only large enough for two budgies

Best of luck!
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Old 07-10-2016, 12:09 AM
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Eek! I completely forgot about that! I was only thinking about getting Lucy out of that cage as fast as possible because it is tiny. Separated them just now, hopefully nothing will spread to Lucy, she's been through enough. Good thing I posted this here because I wouldn't have remembered to quarantine them from each other until it was too late.

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You're very welcome, and don't worry--there's a reason they say "Better late than never"! I'm glad you've separated them now and I'm sure they'll be fine
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So I got a couple pics of his cere, they are a bit blurry because he would move nonstop but I think it will do the trick. If you need better pictures I can try to take some, it will just take some time since my phone isn't all that good at taking non-blurry pictures. Anyways, here they are;


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What a beautiful budgie!

She is a female, in fact Now, don't worry--simply because you have two females does not indicate they will not get along. Many people believe that females never get along together, when in fact, quite a few girls do quite well together.

Have you thought of any names for her yet? Personally, I think "Lucy and Lemon" has a nice ring to it
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Aw shucks. Well the couple hours they've been together it seemed as if they got along. I doubt they will fight once they are together again. Guess I'll be in the market for a male budgie, but that's a ways away from now. Maybe I'll get one once I put these in the aviary since I'm running out of cages and space in the house. I've noticed a lot of the clerks at pet stores get the gender wrong 90% of the time.

If I happen to get a male later on, will they fight over him?

It takes me days to think of names so I'll get back to you on that a bit later.
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Yes, they will. A male in a cage with two females is usually never a harmonious situation, unless one of the birds is fake Likewise, two males and one female is also not reccomended. Uneven pairs of budgies can lead to increased hormones, fighting, and seriously stressed birds from all the competition. In the best case scenario, one bird is always left out and feels like the "third wheel".

I think that having these two girls and seeing how they get on is just fine for now. Since they were already getting along, it's likely they will continue to do so after quarantine.

Pet store employees are rarely more informed than to tell you the species of a bird, unfortunately. At least, that has also been my experience, especially in the "big box" chain stores.

The fortunate thing is that now you don't have to worry about unwanted breedings with two females
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I'm very glad your Lucy's condition has improved so much and congratulations on your new little budgie friend!
I can tell you that she is not 4 weeks old as by this age they are still on the nest and in the process of weaning and gaining their independence.
I'd say she is 8 - 9 weeks old.
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You new little female is very pretty. Have you named her yet?

I would not recommend putting a cage sized 30x18x33 outdoors unless you are right there supervising it every minute.
Cages can easily be knocked over and the birds killed or maimed by predators if they don't escape.
In fact, we have a staff member who had a hawk kill one of her budgies that was in an actual large outdoor aviary.

A cage that is 30x18x33 meets the requirements for housing no more than 4 budgies.
If the cage is actually 30x18x18 (which is what it looks like)
then it can only house two budgies maxium.

If you choose to get additional budgies in the future, you should be sure you follow the proper quarantine procedures. Additionally, it is important you realize that flock dynamics will change each time a bird enters a flock.

https://talkbudgies.com/articles-gene...en-flocks.html
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