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Old 08-12-2016, 07:21 PM
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So yesterday I have been in the room with my budgies watching them and one is being rather aggro screaming and light biting the other will I need to separate them. I think from what it looks like is perch territory troubles, yet earlier they were grooming each other and standing side by side they still are after each little tiff like nothing happened. They are also chirping in friendly manner and still preening sharing food bowls and all that but just every now and then one starts to pick on the other for a few seconds then they go back to normal.

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Hi Eggie,

I'm sorry to hear about the trouble you're having with your two little budgies. Budgies will sometimes bicker and scream at each other, but if they bite each other or make physical contact, it's important to separate them.

How large is their cage? The bigger, the better, and it will help to give them each their own "private space" when they want it. Additionally, it's important to have two of everything in the cage--even food and water, although they are sharing well now, it could contribute to the tension in the future. The same goes for favourite swings and perches. If all these conditions are met and yet they still are aggressive with each other, they will need to be separated for good for both their mental and emotional health.

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If it's just the screeching it's fine yeah? But what about things like flying around the cage and chasing again should I separate from what I've seen seems more like play and attention seeking from the other been watching most of today and that's all it is noise and that's about it. 95% of the day they are fine but for about a total of about half hour from the time they are uncovered from the night to when they get covered again screeching at each other, chase each from one end of the perch to the other and then back to normal.
The cage is big enough have had two budgies in the same cage previously with no problems with one of everything and same amount of perches
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Could you please provide the exact dimensions of your cage?
Length/Width/Height

Star has given you excellent advice.

If the budgies are simply bickering and/or playing and not aggressively fighting one another then they should be fine together.

If, however, you see one of the bullying the other then they should be separated immediately.
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The dimensions of the cage are 40cm wide by 36cm high by 59cm long which from what I have been reading up on is a bit off the smaller side for two budgies however I have had two budgies in the same cage before for 5 years or so with no problems until their passings
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While other budgies may have been comfortable in such close quarters, or at least didn't know any different, I agree that that is small for two budgies. The recommended minimum cage size for two budgies is about 72 cm X 43 cm X 43 cm. The cage you have them in now is only good for one budgie at the most--this is very likely contributing to their bickering.

Most budgies do not get along so well in very close quarters, and prefer plenty of space even if they are bonded or best friends.

The chasing and screaming is probably due to some pent-up frustration--think of it like a roommate situation. No matter how friendly you are, if you both live in a small space you're going to get bothered sometimes with no place to go to let off some steam.

I believe that getting them a cage that is properly sized will significantly lessen the problem. Just that extra space will benefit them greatly as well as giving them extra places to have more perches and food/water cups as well.
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So I was able to find a larger cage of the right h,w&l for two budgies had them in together yesterday noticed today while sitting in the room that one is chasing and biting the other so I have separated of the welfare of the smaller one. Now the budgie in the larger cage is pacing and trying to get the attention of the other of and getting stressed out so I have put a cover on the other cage as they are on opposite sides of the room but still visible to each other to prevent the budgie from pacing have I done the right thing by placing the sheet to obstruct the view?
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Since they still were fighting even after they were in a bigger space, then I'm glad you separated them. Until they adjust to living without each other, it's probably more convenient to have them in separate rooms. That way, neither budgie has to be covered. If they try to call to each other, just put on some music in each separate room and close any doors to muffle the flock calling.

In the future, once they calm down, you can put them in the same room again and see how they react. Out-of-cage time together is a good way to gauge their relationship again in a few months.
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I'm glad you purchased a bigger cage. Bigger is always better as long as the bar spacing is no more than 12.7 mm (1.27 cm) apart.

I agree with Star.
For now, it would be best to put the two cages in separate rooms.
In a few weeks, you can try the cages in the same room again and see how the birds react.
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The bars are fine. However I can not separate into two rooms the room they are in is the only safe zone for them from three cats two indoor and one outdoor cat
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