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Old 08-21-2016, 08:04 AM
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Question Unusual Behaviour

My female budgie is dominant over my male budgie.
My female budgie Akira is 7 months old and my male budgie Spikey is 5 months old. But from last few days Akira is being suppressive over Spikey as she doesn't even let him sit over the swing which is big enough to accommodate both of them.
Akira hits him and due to it Spikey falls down. Akira is a good flier but Spikey doesn't fly at all.
I purchased them a month ago and the shopkeeper told me that they were together since the beginning and were placed there in a separate cage they were not even hand tamed.
I spent time with them and now they are good and quite friendly with me.
But Akira is showing her dominance over the Spikey and I am Unable to identify the reason.
Spikey doesn't sit next to Akira on that Swing but I've seen them at times feeding each other through their beaks.
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Old 08-21-2016, 09:12 AM
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This is not unusual behavior, it can be considered normal. Females are generally more dominant than males.

I would suggest you place them in separate cages for a few weeks.
If Akira is bullying Spikey, then he needs to have his own space where he can feel safe and secure.

You can work on hand taming each of them one on one.
In a few weeks, you can try giving them out-of-cage time together to see how they do.

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I'm sorry you are having problems with your budgies. By looking at how your budgies interact with each other and by paying attention to their body language and behaviours, you will be able to reach a conclusion and if need be to intervene and take the necessary steps to put a stop to the aggression.
The reason for the aggression can be hereditary, budgies who have violent parents can inherit the violent temperament. The aggression can also be potentiated when the budgie first comes into breeding condition.
If your Akira is now 7 months old, then most likely her cere is showing the mature dark brown colour

If Akira is constantly bullying Spikey, chasing him away from the food, swing or other toys, then in order to avoid an escalation on the fighting where Spikey can get severely injured, it would be best to house your budgies on separate cages.
By placing Akira on a separate cage you have better chances of making her go out of breeding condition (cere reverting to creamy white colour), this will also give her time to cool off. Later on, when they are both settled in their new housing arrangements, you can allow them to have closely supervised out of cage time together and depending on how they behave, you can keep up with it or not.
If the bullying continues, then having your budgies housed separately on a permanent basis would be the best choice and so will be giving them separate out of cage time.
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Hi Ankit and to the forums!

I agree that separate housing for a few weeks, followed by out of cage time together to see how they do is the best idea. Akira and Spikey need time apart to relax and settle down, both for their own sake as each others'.

Meanwhile, be sure to read through the links provided by FaeryBee as they contain valuable information to keep you posted on the best of budgie care! If you have any questions afterwards, don't hesitate to ask as we'd love to help.

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Akira is having a creamy white Cere and its not that she's aggressive most of the time. Actually they both do kiss each other and also call each other when are away they both also move together all over.
But Akira doesn't let Spikey sit on the swings next to her neither she alows him to sit on her swing which is inside the cage, nor does she allow him to sit on the one outside which is big enough for both of them.
I had to build a separate swing today for Spikey today.
I don't feel that placing them in different cages would be a good Idea as I've mentioned above. They were together since the very beginning, and they want to be together no matter how much they fight, but they do feed each other with their beaks.
Is it a typical human female like nature Akira is showing on her things?
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Old 08-21-2016, 01:31 PM
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It's not typical nor okay if the fighting is intense and is done on a daily basis and for a prolonged period of time during each day.
When there is ongoing daily vicious fighting, it's recommended to separate the aggressive budgie and to house him/her on a different cage and to not allow this budgie to have close contact with other budgies or different species of pet birds. By not doing so, chances will be higher of things ending up in tragedy.

It's up to you to determine how bad and how frequent this fighting is and to make a decision for your budgies' overall safety, welfare and happiness.
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Hi there . As said above, it is ultimately up to your judgement to tell whether this is just a little harmless bickering, or true fighting. I wonder if the cage is too small? If there is not enough room, this can magnify the behavior. Don't feel bad if you have to separate them. If you place their cages side by side they can still be friends. Many people do this. I've done this before with 2 males, and then a male and a female for a time, and they all adjusted just fine and were okay with it.
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Hmm....
The cage is big enough for both of them & its not that they have not lived together. They were together since th very beginning in fact at the pet store too they were inside together in a separate cage than others,
Akira usually doesn't show such behaviour just from last 1-2 days she ha started doing this.
May be she's marking her teritorry and inside the cage they both don't fight only just on a particular swing she doesn't like Spikey to sit there.
May Spikey 2 months is younger than her and doesn't know yet how to fly this may also be the reason for her supremacy, else they're very good
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At 5 months old your Spikey should be able to fly. Budgie chicks can give their first flights only days after reaching 1 month old, they will usually do so as soon as they are 34 - 35 days old (5 weeks of age).
Your Spikey's flight feathers could have been clipped and as a consequence he is unable to fly. If he is missing the main (biggest) tail feathers as well as the primary flight feathers, then he may have French moult.
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Would you please provide the cage dimensions?
Length x Width x Height

Is Akira allowing Spikey to perch everywhere except on the one swing?

Does Akira allow Spikey to eat without bullying him?
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