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Hello all!
I am new to the forum and am looking into adding some budgies to my household within the next year or so.

I am considering re-purposing my double critter nation cages once my rats pass on and was curious to see what you thought about this idea, since I have very little bird experience. I know that they may not be ideal, but I have so much time and money invested into these cages that I would like to make them work if possible.

The actual cage dimensions for each section are about 36" long x 24" wide x 24" high. (91 cm x 61 cm x 61 cm). I've also seen a breeder's website who took out the middle floor level and made it into a single tall cage (36" x 24" x 48").

I will include some photos below so you can see the detail and how the doors open.
Whole double cage with doors closed (setup for my rats)


Single level, doors open.


The bar spacing is 1/2" and it is very well powder coated. The pans you see in my photos are stainless steel. The shelf that is on the left side (second photo) can be removed, leaving small holes where it would have been placed (holes are about 1/4 cm in size). These holes run up the four corners of the cage in ~2" intervals.

The main questions I was hoping you could help me with are as follows.

1. How many budgies could I fit into one half of the cage? (i.e. the top half)
2. Would using both sections of the cage allow for more budgies to be housed in it? (setting it up as a 4 foot tall call with no middle floor)
3. Are there any possible complications that I need to be aware of based on the cage design?

Thank you for your time and help! It is greatly appreciated.

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If you were to use the Critter Nation Cage for budgies, the first and most important thing to do would be to break it down, clean and disinfect it completely using bleach.
Rinse several times with boiling water an let air dry before reassembling the cage.

My concern about the cage is there is no easy way to change the food and water without the birds flying out because of how large the doors are.
However, if you plan to keep them in a bird safe room and give them out of cage time together, that may not be an issue for you.

You could conceivable house up to four birds in the upper section and the same in the lower. However, I am a big proponent of giving each budgie as much space as possible.
Therefore, I personally wouldn't house more than two in each section of the cage.

Should you decide to remove the middle barrier and make the cage 36 x 24 x 48, it would be fine to house 8 budgies in the cage.
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Thanks for your input!
I was planning on using f10sc to clean it once the time comes (it is a vet-grade disinfectant, anti-viral / bacterial), would that be sufficient?

I was also concerned about the door size... I am going to be placing the cage in a secure room, so it is not that big of a deal if they escape while changing food / water. I was also planning on slightly clipping their flight feather when I first bring them home (while I am training them to be less skittish).

Do you think removing the shelf that is in the cage is a good idea or would it be useful to the birds? i think they would have more flight space if I remove it, but was unsure if they would use the extra "floor space" the shelf provides.

Thanks again for your help and time!
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The construction of that cage looked so familiar.... The same company also sells a line of bird cages, Avian Adventures. I would try contacting them and asking for suggestions for converting it to birds. Tell them it's for budgies so that you stick to the recommended 1/2" max bar spacing. https://www.midwesthomes4pets.com/my-pet/birds-1
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Thank you Ibeckman- I did not know they had a line of bird cages. I wonder if some of the parts are interchangeable... That would be great.
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What a cool cage Other than the issue of the doors (which it seems is resolved since they'll be in a closed budgie safe room) then I agree that it's a great idea!

Budgies prefer to perch and flat surfaces, when they do use them, are hard to keep clean, so I would remove the shelf in the middle. It would make things more open for sure.

Best of luck and keep us posted on how things go!
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Looking at the set up your rats have, I can imagine some *very* spoilt budgies! Best of luck getting the cage sorted.
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Yes, the F10SC will be fine for cleaning and disinfecting the cage.

I would remove the middle "shelf".
I have a cage that measures:
31" Long x 20" Wide x 48” High (interior)

My budgies use the entire cage space.
Each morning (and evening) when I clean the cage and put fresh newspapers on the bottom grate,
I scatter their ration of seed on the paper to encourage them to forage for it.

I have perches and toys located in the bottom section as well and all the birds are happy to use that area.
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Thanks again for the input guys! I do plan on opening up the whole cage (removing the center to make one tall cage), but I was thinking that during the taming process it might be easier to deal with them if I only used half of the cage at first.

Therm- Thanks! I do really spoil my rats They make great pets, but are very very time-consuming in terms of cleaning and I've had to deal with a lot of health / temperament issues, which is why I'm wanting to try budgies for a while once all of my current colony pass.

One other question for you guys: Since I will more-than-likely have to buy my birds from either a pet store or bird show (no breeders in my state or surrounding ones), I am assuming they will be very skittish and not tame at all. Would it be better to start them out in an even smaller cage so that I had better access for training? I do have some smaller cages I've used for my rats over the years that have the proper bar spacing that could be used temporarily. The largest one I have is 30" long x 30" high x 18" wide.

Thanks again for your time and help!
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How many budgies are you planning to get initially?
It is easier to tame budgies individually rather than trying to do multiples at once.
However, there is a thread in the Taming and Bonding section of the forum that many people have used successfully.

https://talkbudgies.com/taming-bondin...id-people.html

With regard to where to get your birds, I'll send you a Private Message.
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