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Old 09-03-2016, 01:30 AM
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Default Mating Behavior when not in season?

Recently I added a third little budgie to my flock, a male named Joe. My other two are a female, Gizmo, and a male, Cujo.

Very recently, today actually, I removed Cujo from the large cage they all share to go and visit my brother's bird who he is pals with for a while.

Almost as soon as I removed him, Joe started flirting with Gizmo, as if right then was his chance or something (not that Cujo and Gizmo are a pair). She accepted it and they groomed, but now he keeps putting his foot on her back and chest, which I can only assume is a courting behavior, or maybe just being playful. This is something she often pecks him away for, but, oddly, Gizmo will proceed to crawl under his belly?

I have heard that a male budgie will place his foot on the female's back to get her into season, is this true? And is this why he is doing this? They aren't even a bonded pair though, but are closer to each other than to Cujo.

They are too young to breed (though I would love to as a hobby and for the experience), as I'm pretty sure they are about 9 months old, so now I'm worried I have to separate them right when they are getting along most.

I guess my questions in the end are why is Gizmo crawling underneath Joe, why did Joe not act this way with Cujo around, and why is he (assumedly) trying to court her whilst barely having a relationship and with her not in season?

If anyone has a clue, I would be grateful for the input


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I would think the removal of the other male gave him some extra time with her without interruptions which is why you are seeing the behaviour more. It's normal in a flock for others to upset the flirting.

Budgies actually mature more around the 6 months mark but shouldn't be bred until after the age of one so they can build up a store needed nutrients and vitamins so you might think she isn't in season but she most likely is as we as responsible owners supply a suitable environment that for birds says "this is a plentiful time to raise babies". Mating of budgies means that the male stands on the hen. So she shouldn't be wiggling under him more staying still. Sounds like he is still learning and she is saying no.

This doesn't mean you have to separate them, just don't provide a suitable nesting spot.
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Rearranging their cage frequently, and limiting the light they get to no more than 8 hours a day will help tremendously.
Please be sure you never put a nest box or anything that could be used as a nesting site in their cage.

Limit the amount of protein in their diet and substitute more fresh vegetables.

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If the behavior persists, then it would be in the budgies best interest to separate them for awhile to let the urges cool down.

I'm glad you recognize Joe and Gizmo are too young to breed. Breeding is a big responsibility and requires a strong basic knowledge of budgies and their care as well as experience in recognizing behaviors. After which, extensive research into the best practices for breeding is necessary.
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Thank you both very much, I will make sure no nesting site is provided, and if the behavior does persist, I will separate the two, perhaps just to cages next to each other so that they can talk often, as well as have a view of each other.

I will try them on more fruits and vegetables, but all I have ever succeeded with feeding them (Only Cujo, actually) is lettuce. I will go ahead and try some apple slices.

I agree that Joe is learning, and I think Gizmo is mostly saying no, however sometimes she doesn't care quite as much. I also will change around their cage more, and limit their lighting.

Thanks again!
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Also be wary as having three budgies together usually ends up with one being left out, picked on. Budgies live in a flock situation and do have a hierarchy . having one female can lead to males fighting over the female.
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And don't forget that fruit has a higher sugar content than veggies, and should usually only be given as a once-a-week treat. (Correct me if I'm wrong, all you moderators)
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