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I have recently joined the forums and have a question on my new Budgie, Jack. I have had budgies all of my life but Jack is the youngest I have ever owned, currently at 6 weeks and 5 days!!

He is certainly very juvenile but remarkably tame due to the skill of the breeder we collected him from! The one thing I have noticed is that since the day we had him he has been losing some of his larger feathers and he has not developed any flight feathers yet. I have posted a pic of some of the feathers he has lost and a photo of him from the side.

Is this normal? he is eating, drinking and singing away happily but I thought I would get some advice from you all if he should have the ability to fly yet and if the loss of larger feathers is normal?

Thank you in advance!





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Hello I have flagged your post regarding your query about your sweet budgie, hopefully some of our experienced members will be on board soon and be able to help you .
Have you had an Avian vet do a check up on him?
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Losing that many feathers at such a young age is not normal and many of the feathers you've shown in the photo do not look healthy. Do you happen so know what the little white specks on the feathers are?

While some breeders may have been breeding for many years, it is no guarantee they are following "Best Practices" in doing so.
What practices does the breeder from whom you purchased Jack follow? Is he careful not to allow inbreeding? Does he ensure his budgies are on a conditioning diet prior to breeding and allow no more than 2 clutches per year?
Does he set each pair up in individual cages? Does he ensure the budgies are "retired" from breeding when they reach 4 years old?

I would recommend you to have your little Jack examined by an Avian Vet right away to see if he has French Molt.
Be sure to take the feathers with you when you visit the Avian Vet.

Avian Vets have special training to determine the cause of symptoms resulting from illness or trauma. This is important as "regular" vets will often overlook symptoms that are quickly obvious to an Avian Vet.
When you rely on anyone who has not had training in Avian diagnosis and care, you may be delaying effective treatment. This can prolong suffering that may be avoidable.
The bird will often require a more intense, prolonged treatment with a poorer chance of full recovery than it would have if you seek prompt professional diagnosis and treatment at the first sign of illness.

Distinction between an Avian Vet and a Vet that "Will See Birds"

Having your new budgie examined by an Avian Vet allows you to develop a good relationship with the vet in case your bird needs care for an injury or illness in the future. Additionally, it is always helpful for the vet to have a baseline for your bird to refer to should it need future treatment.

https://talkbudgies.com/articles-budg...n-control.html

Please be sure to update us on your little fellow's condition after you've had him examined by your Avian Vet.

I'm wishing sweet little Jack all the best!
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Welcome to the forums and congratulations on your new little friend!

Unfortunately, by looking at the amount of fallen feathers and the lack of primary (longest) flight feathers, this does look like a case of French moult.
https://talkbudgies.com/articles-budg...n-control.html
If this is to be confirmed by the avian vet, then your Jack will have to be on a special diet adequate for his specific case. By doing so, it's possible to improve Jack's feather condition.
For now, you can offer him some egg food as this is highly nutritious and perfectly fine to offer to young budgies. This can also promote healthier feather growth.

Best of luck with everything!
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Hello

Thanks for all of the replies! Unfortunately I have not taken him to an avian vet - I will look at doing this ASAP!

I was reccommended the breeder by the UK Budgerigar Society so hope he followed best practice for breeding. The white dots on the feather I showed you were just dust from being on the table for a few days.

However! I have just found another feather in Jacks cage and I have closely inspected it and it is covered in tiny white mites that are predominately along the centre but running all over the fallen feather!!!! See picture below!!



Could this be what is causing the feather loss? As he is so young he struggles to navigate the cage all that well, thats what I had originally attributed his feather loss to! :-(

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I was concerned there were feather mites when I saw your first picture.

Yes, the mites can definitely be contributing to the feather loss. Dickie needs to be treated for the mites right away. I'm sure they are making him quite miserable.

You'll need to carefully clean and disinfect everything in his cage and everything he's come in contact with as soon as he's treated.

In the meantime, sprinkle ground cinnamon in the bottom of his cage, down in the corner crevices of the cage, and - if he allows you to pick him up -- rub some of the cinnamon on your palms and stroke it down over his feathers.

Please do get his in for treatment as quickly as possible.

https://talkbudgies.com/articles-gene...-vet-help.html

https://talkbudgies.com/articles-budg...parasites.html

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I have spoken to my local (knowledgeable) petshop who have a treatment available (called Beaphar Anti-Parasite Spot-on and contains Ivermectin) I am heading off now to pick it up, I will also get ground cinnamon whilst I am out!

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Thank you! Edgbaston is actually quite a way from where I am and would take a long time to get there by getting through the Birmingham traffic and I wouldn't want to stress him on such a long car journey at the moment. I will try and find one in my city who may be able to help this week.
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Great!

Please be sure to update us on Jack's condition.
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