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What are the factors that would lead one to believe that a budgie has bonded with them? I've read a bit about this, and some how-to's... but I'm not sure how to determine if it's actually happened... and when do you know when it has indeed occurred? What are the traits of this?

My budgie will eat out of my hand, and for the most part step up when I want him to. Rarely, he might resist or run away, but that's not the norm.

I've been trying to introduce him to a dripping faucet and today he ran up my arm to my shoulder to get away from it. He seemed more comfortable there. [ He doesn't like slow faucets or baths. ]

He will come out of the cage on my finger but then he flies to the bookcases soon thereafter. He likes to perch there. That's more fun than hanging around on my finger. And I wonder if he's trying to be superior by perching high up.

He then flies around the room and will re-perch on the top of the bookcases. That's his routine. Sometimes it takes a bit to get him back. He'll go on my finger but then fly off to another favorite high perch. He might do this a time or two... and then I get a long dowel perch (made for a cage) and he'll get on that and then I put him back in the cage. I take him to the door and say "cage" and make him fly back in because I want him to associate the command to go into his cage. I give him a treat (spray millet) when he does this. And praise him. [I'm going to try to tackle click training at some point. Have introduced it, but I'm not ready yet to take it on. ]

He doesn't really "play" yet on the top of the cage, but he'll take treats there and chew a toy.

He will chirp when I speak with him. All different kinds of chirps. Sometimes it's more conversational than others. He's "conversational" (in his bird language) when he's tired. Morning and evening. Sometimes he will chirp softly if it's quiet, like he wants my attention when he's in his cage and if I'm doing something else.

I would say that he's tame..... but I don't know if he thinks I'm part of his "flock." And I wouldn't necessarily know if there's bonding per se. He knows that I give him food and water, and that I'm in charge of letting him or out of the cage.

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Old 09-16-2016, 06:33 AM
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There are different levels of tameness depending on how strong the bond is with a given pet bird. The way I see it, there are 3 main levels: "finger tamed", "tamed/fairly tamed" and then there is "super tamed".

You can see your budgie loves you and is very closely bonded to you when he gets all excited and chirpy the moment he hears your footsteps as you are about to enter the room he is in. You see clear signs on the budgie's body language where he will immediately move closer to you when you approach the cage and when he genuinely wants to play/interact with you.
The budgie will sing in happiness and head bob when you are close to him giving him attention, he can also preen your fingers, face, etc.

As for your budgie wanting to perch high up, this is a common trait found in budgies and part of their built in natural defence mechanism.
Finding a higher place to perch gives them the sense of security, they are able to have a better view over the area and to more easily spot a potential predator.
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Thanks Aluz. That is incredibly helpful information.

I think my bird is generally just "finger tamed." I feel a bit like his butler. He doesn't have much interest in "playing" per say. All he wants to do is eat, and then fly to the top of the book case and chirp. He will chew toys, but doesn't exactly play.

He seems interested when I come near the cage. . . but doesn't necessarily come closer. He doesn't seem excited necessarily. It might be because I've been around him a lot in the past week(s) & keep him in the room with me when I'm on the computer, etc.

Sometimes he will sing and do the head bob... but I'm not sure if that's for me or it's for his favorite branch. (He does this to a branch. Or, maybe he's trying to get my attention because I'm sitting about 8 to 10 feet away. I'm not sure.... I've only seen this a couple times. I thought it was the branch. .... As I write he's doing it to the books. He loves those books. He's doing a nice song for the books right now & bobbing his head. He's about 12 feet away so I don't think that's intended for my benefit.)

Should I continue to let him perch on the bookcases? They are two very tall cases on opposite sides of the room, and he flys back and forth between the top of the two and looks down on me as I work. Is this encouraging distance and superiority on his part? (I can try other areas to let him fly for a designated and supervised play-time / fly-time.)

As you know he's about 5 to 6 months... I've had him for about a month. . . . Is this relationship set or does it grow, change, evolve as he grows up? I realize there are certain personality components at work and he might be more "macho" than some more docile and /or personable and/or less wild birds. I realize that and it's ok... I know pets are wild animals and you never exactly know which personality you will get. I appreciate him regardless and his various moods. (He is cutest when he is tired. He is obnoxious when he wants to come out of his cage. He is frustrating when he is picky about the pellet conversion (he's clearly a seed junky.)

As we speak I'm waiting for him to get bored perching high up (or hungry); and I'm going to reward him when he comes to his cage. But it can take a long time... hours. Right now he is completely silent on the bookcase. Just hanging out about 10 feet up. . . not making any noise. Just watching. I guess he's relaxing in a place he enjoys and feels safe.

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All birds start out as just "finger tamed", and the more time you spend with them and work with them, the more they respond to you and they will usually become very tame and truly bonded to you over a period of time

Trust is the first major thing in bonding, and you've already achieved that. Keep on working with him and soon I'm sure he'll begin to be friends with his butler
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haha.... will do... ! Right now he is on my shoulder. He's staying there because he's tired. (If it weren't late, he'd be flying all over.) He's much more interested in chewing on my shirt right now, than me, or anything else.

Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate it. And as his butler, I can be very patient. ; )
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Hey! My bird is in the exact same situation. You should definitely keep us updated if you start moving from finger taming to more bonded, because I'm trying really hard to make that step and it's not working so far.
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When I has my 1st budgie (Ash) he was so well tamed that he would Stan on my elbow enjoying the ride while I brushed my teeth... I would say he was super tamed and we bonded extremely well.

Where Jay Is only finger tamed at the moment but that's only while I hold a mirror... I have thought the same thing. We haven't fully bonded but there are good days and bad days so it isn't easy to tell.

There are signs to look for but I think it's something only the budgie and the owner will know
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Budgies are all different just like people, the main thing with having a super tame Budgie is repetition, love, patience and trust.
I have a Super Tame Budgie, he was a hand raised baby that was thrown out of the nest. Getting your budgie from a reputable breeder helps also. The more you put in the more you will get back.
However in saying this some budgies simply prefer to be a lone, happy and content bird being appreciated for his qualities.
Just like some budgies will talk and others won't.
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My budgie is the exact same way, although when he gets really excited he likes to tap on my hand with his beak while singing.
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Hey! My bird is in the exact same situation. You should definitely keep us updated if you start moving from finger taming to more bonded, because I'm trying really hard to make that step and it's not working so far.
Will do IAMStarby. I believe I saw that you found your bird...? If my memory serves me correctly from reading your posts. (yesterday I read... forgive me if I'm getting this confused.) Seems like you've made good progress for an adult bird you found.

My bird is a 5 to 6 month old "teenager" ... & is very good... but at times still seems a bit "wild."

I've learned that slowing down and being very patient and going at his pace and not pushing him really helps things. i.e. if he seems like he wants to be by himself, I let him, and if he seems like he would prefer to be in his cage, I don't force him. Positive reinforcement and going slow really seem to the way to go. I think it's about seeing how things are by the end of the year vs. next week or the week after. That's what I'm thinking anyhow.

I ignore him when he makes obnoxious "ack" noises. I find if I do nothing, he will simmer down and then chirp in a more reasonable way that he wants attention. I don't want to encourage is most obnoxious behaviors, while at the same time making sure his needs are being met. It's a delicate balance I think.
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