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Old 10-05-2016, 10:43 AM
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Question Transferring 2 Female Budgies

Most likely next week, (after ages of finding pet friendly places) my family and I with the budgies will be moving to another place to stay at (at least for a week) as the apartment we live in now has to get the whole ceiling fixed.
Since we have a small car, the cage the budgies are now in are slightly too big to fit in the car (when we first bought the cage, we placed the cag horizontally, laying on the car seats) so we can't have it sitting upright and have the budgies inside the cage, so, we'll have to move my 2 budgies. We don't have a small pet carrier or another cage sadly (my mum won't allow )and my mum said to just get a cardboard box (with the top removed) and get one of the covers we have here used as a lid (it's a big lid with gaps; pic below). The place we're staying at is at least 5-8 minutes away.

I just want to ask how I would be able to transfer my 2 female birds from the cage to the box? One of my budgies is hand tamed (well, I think so ) but I have never taken her out of the cage and I'm a bit worried about the transferring. I would hate it if she loses trust. And the other budgie I have, she is still pretty untamed and bites extremely hard. She does eat food and millet from the hand but bites very hard. Although she doesn't have much trust in me, I also don't want to lose the little trust she has and make her more scared.
How should I transfer them? Should I try to have them step up on my finger with my right hand and then try to restrain them with my left? (If so, could you teach/show me how? Any pictures, links?)
I can't really use a perch and make them step up as they run away (they run away even if you put their own feather close to them).
I don't really want to place the cardboard box infront of the cage door as I have a strong feeling that once I try to put the lid on, they'll escape or they'd just stare at the box at a distance.

Is there a better way to do it? Should I just have them step up with my right (or my left) and try to hold/restrain them with my left (or right)? I've never taken them out of the cage and have never really touched them (only time is when I get them to step up). Please advise.
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The best way to go about this and of also thinking in the future is to get a smaller cage, one which will be used as a hospital cage for when on of your budgies get sick. This smaller cage can also be used as travel cage for vet appointments.
These small cages are easily affordable and hopefully after talking to your mother, she will realize the importance of having a spare cage that can be used in emergency situations.
If you get a second cage and after setting it with water/food, couple of small toys, etc then you can place the doors of both cages at the same level and open them. You can also place a favourite treat near the entrance to the travel cage to entice your budgies to move into the cage.
During the short car drive you can cover the cage to give your budgies a better sense of security. Also for safety reasons, don't place any dangling toys or swings that can harm your budgies during the ride.
This would be the least stressful and safest way to do things.

As for the shoebox solution, if the plastic lid doesn't fit well into the box then you will run serious risks of losing your budgies to the great outdoors.
It would be best to puncture a few holes onto the cardboard lid which will be a perfect fit on the box it was made for.
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The best way to go about this and of also thinking in the future is to get a smaller cage, one which will be used as a hospital cage for when on of your budgies get sick. This smaller cage can also be used as travel cage for vet appointments.
These small cages are easily affordable and hopefully after talking to your mother, she will realize the importance of having a spare cage that can be used in emergency situations.
If you get a second cage and after setting it with water/food, couple of small toys, etc then you can place the doors of both cages at the same level and open them. You can also place a favourite treat near the entrance to the travel cage to entice your budgies to move into the cage.
During the short car drive you can cover the cage to give your budgies a better sense of security. Also for safety reasons, don't place any dangling toys or swings that can harm your budgies during the ride.
This would be the least stressful and safest way to do things.

As for the shoebox solution, if the plastic lid doesn't fit well into the box then you will run serious risks of losing your budgies to the great outdoors.
It would be best to puncture a few holes onto the cardboard lid which will be a perfect fit on the box it was made for.
Thank you for your quick response.
That was what I was exactly thinking. I wanted to get a smaller cage for future uses and hoped for this one but my mum won't allow me as she says that it'll only be in the box for at least 5 minutes and that we already have a cage. I will try to convince her and if not, I'll just tell her that I can buy it myself, as i can just use my own money I earned and was given from relatives... Although she may still not allow but, we'll see. ^^;; Most likely not but I'll still try. I really really do hope to get a smaller cage... ><

My mum was thinking of just getting a cardboard box (large enough) for the lid to at least sit comfortably on top, just for the car ride, and then putting them back in the cage when we arrive to the place we're staying at (we will be bringing the bird cage we have now).

We may be going to the pet store tomorrow and if I'm not able to get a small cage (even though it's normally cheap but it seems pretty pricey here I think) , is it alright if I could restrain them like what I mentioned from above ? Or are there better ways to do so besides having and using another cage?
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You will always need to have one spare cage, it's not realistic to think that for the duration of your budgies' lives there won't ever be avian vet appointments.
You also don't know if your girls will get along well in the future and if separation is needed. For now they are perfect and all is well, once they first come into breeding condition, that's when temper problems can arise.

Having a travel cage in hand when needed is essential for any pet bird owner.

You should also be aware that your budgies will see the cardboard box as a foreign object. Still if you have absolutely no choice, and if one of your budgies is finger tamed, then you can have her step onto your finger and carefully place her on the box. For your other girl, you can use a soft cloth to gently catch her.
You will have to be careful when placing the second budgie on the box in order to prevent the one already there from escaping.
The lid for the cardboard box must be a good one and if need be and to be extra cautious, you can place some stationery tape (or stronger tape) to firmly attach the lid onto the box.

It would truly be so much better to have them move into a smaller cage. This would also prevent a potential accident from happening when you open the lid of the box, because most likely your girls will be terrified and will fly out in a panic on a room they are not familiar with and most likely is not bird proofed.

Also you can show your mother this thread, if it will help with the decision. Good luck!
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You will always need to have one spare cage, it's not realistic to think that for the duration of your budgies' lives there won't ever be avian vet appointments.
You also don't know if your girls will get along well in the future and if separation is needed. For now they are perfect and all is well, once they first come into breeding condition, that's when temper problems can arise.

Having a travel cage in hand when needed is essential for any pet bird owner.

You should also be aware that your budgies will see the cardboard box as a foreign object. Still if you have absolutely no choice, and if one of your budgies is finger tamed, then you can have her step onto your finger and carefully place her on the box. For your other girl, you can use a soft cloth to gently catch her.
You will have to be careful when placing the second budgie on the box in order to prevent the one already there from escaping.
The lid for the cardboard box must be a good one and if need be and to be extra cautious, you can place some stationery tape (or stronger tape) to firmly attach the lid onto the box.

It would truly be so much better to have them move into a smaller cage. This would also prevent a potential accident from happening when you open the lid of the box, because most likely your girls will be terrified and will fly out in a panic on a room they are not familiar with and most likely is not bird proofed.

Also you can show your mother this thread, if it will help with the decision. Good luck!
Thank you for your helpful advice as always!
If I were to get a smaller cage for them, would it be better for us to use that as their temporary cage (about 1 week) so we don't have to move them back into their usual cage (and then bringing it with us also) when we arrive to the place we're staying at or should I just use it for the car ride and then move them back in their usual cage (having to bring it)?

If I can remember, the minimum cage requirement for 2 budgies is 30 x 18 x 18 right?

EDIT: I have just contacted the pet store I go too and they said that the smallest cage they've got in store for two budgies is 45cm x 35 x 55.

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Since it's only for a week, your budgies can stay in a smaller cage, they will not suffer ill effects from it.
The big cage can stay at your home, you won't have to transport it.

Yes, those are the minimum measurements in inches for two budgies.
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We went to the pet shop and sadly, annoyingly and frustratingly, we did not get a smaller cage.
I have tried to talk to my mum but she won't listen and she won't allow.
I really don't want to put them in a box as they will definitely get terrified and even if it is just a short car ride.. but I guess i will have to..

Thank you for your advice..
Although I am definitely not able to get a smaller cage soon, I will try my hardest to get one in the future as it is extremely important.
I myself is extremely angry. Ugh.
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I'm truly sorry to hear that.

If your mother is worried about storage of this second cage, maybe you could place it on your bedroom.
Cages can be disassembled and easily stored, especially a small travel cage. You could even likely fit it in your closet.
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I don't think it is because of the storage but because of the money. While trying to tell her, she has strictly told me that it's because we'd need to spend another $60 or so on a another cage and that its just spending and wasting more money and that the car ride is only very short.
I told her that it would be for emergencies, or vet appointments, travels etc but she just says no and it's not what she was trying to say to me.
Once my mum has her mind/decision on something, you seriously can't change her mind, no matter what you do or try to explain.
I just feel so angry..
I just hope that the birds won't freak out too much and become so afraid that it'd take us back a few steps in taming/bonding.. :'(
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When we take on the responsibility of pet ownership, money must be spent to cover for all of the pet's needs. Having a travel/hospital cage is part of the very basics of pet bird ownership.
Given the reluctancy to get such a simple and yet important item as a cage, I fear for the day that God forbid one of your budgies get sick/injured and in need of emergency medical attention and you are unable to get your budgies to an avian vet because this costs money and many times it can be more than 60 dollars.

This is why it's so important for parents to fully be on board in assisting their children's pets (who should the family's beloved pets) in times of need and to take full responsibility for the commitment when it comes to their care.
When this doesn't happen, it's best to not go into the pet owning route and wait for circumstances to change and only get a pet when financially independent.
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