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I got three budgies, two are caged together, one in his own cage since I got him later. The two caged, Fluff and Tweet, are bonding. They will preen each other, sleep next to one another. Rub their beaks with each other, which I'm assuming is little budgie kisses.

However, throughout the day, occasionally I hear little hissing or growling sounds from Tweet. It's hard to describe other than it reminds me of a low growl coming from the throat area. And it's usually directed towards Fluff. Are they fighting or play fighting?

I have caught Tweet using his little foot to push Fluff off of a perch. Fluff usually looks unfazed by it and generally goes to a different perch and Tweet usually follows him around after a few minutes.

They have plenty of toys in their cage. However, it's just one toy of each, like one shredding toy. They do play with their toys a bit, sometimes together, sometimes they take turns. Sometimes Tweet growls when Fluff tries to join in.

I try to give them out of the cage time, but whenever I open the door, they just look at it like "well, what am I suppose to do with that?!" or look at the outside like "nope, too scary!" and never actually come out.

Should I be worried about this growling/hissing sound? I do stop it when it happens by standing next to the cage and talking calmly with them. It's usually enough for them to stop because they still aren't used to me and stop to watch what I am doing.

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Budgies can make a characteristic sound to show disapproval and to warn of a potential incoming bite when feeling threatened.
This is usually a string of short and successive "peep" sounding little noises. This can be seen during light bickerings also.
Then there is also the screeching "ack, ack, ack" sound which is much louder in volume, and depending on context can also be used to express a negative attitude and alarm.

From your description, it seems your budgies have occasional light bickerings, this can be minimized by getting twos of everything (two food bowls, two same type toys, two swings, etc).
Only when there is consistent bullying and the victim is hardly able to lead their normal life (not able to have a proper meal, to stand on a given spot, etc) will it be best to separate the aggressor budgie into another cage.

Since you are very new to budgies, the information on the several articles and stickies will be extremely useful as you become more acquainted with the species.

You can start by checking the information on this link: https://talkbudgies.com/articles-gene...en-flocks.html
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Thanks for the reply. I've never seen them bite each other. I haven't heard any short "peep" sounds, just the weird growling. I may try to get it on video if it happens again.

I do have two of mostly everything. Two water bowls, two food dishes, 2 swings, multiple perches. I wasn't sure what kind of toys they would like though, but now that they are showing favorites, I'll pick up extras.

They always have to be by one another it seems. If one goes to the food dish, the other one follows. They have two swings, but they both sit on the same one for bed time.

Fluff seems to have two volumes, mute and ear piercing loud. Only time he chirps quietly or softly is in the evening before they tuck themselves into bed. If he hears DiscoBeats (other caged bird) he does his little "hello, I'm a parakeet too! talk to me!" chirp and then just goes back to his ear piercing sounds. They aren't scared or hurt sounding, I think he is just naturally loud. He's my big talker while the other two are a little more quiet.
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You're very welcome. A video would surely be helpful to identify the sound and to see if it's a normal one, part of the budgie's language or if it's something your budgie may have picked up and learnt to mimic while at the pet store or breeder's house.
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So I tried to get a video of it, but I don't think it was loud enough to be picked up. They are back to being friends now, cuddled up together in a swing. (Their cage is a mess right now!)

https://vid86.photobucket.com/albums/...pszehv8vfs.mp4
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discotweets..... this is a bit of a different topic... but curious how you like your Hagen Vision cage... I'm thinking about getting one.... but very on the fence.... I like the way they look... but I'm concerned I'll miss having a tray.... thx!
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It's a decent cage. The birds like the room. I do miss the tray because in order to clean it, I have to take it off its stand, carry it to the kitchen, and take the whole thing off. It's fairly simple of snapping in and out of place though. And I only have to take it to the kitchen because the stand its on makes it taller than me.

Only other downfall is it can be hard to get to the bird. Four doors, but if you only open one at the top, you can't reach the bottom too well. (Unless you have long arms, which I do not.)

I do like that the bars are all horizontal. I think the birdies enjoy it too because it makes for climbing easier. And Fluff likes to sit at the bottom by the clear plastic closest to my desk chair and check up on me and my third birdie.
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So I tried to get a video of it, but I don't think it was loud enough to be picked up. They are back to being friends now, cuddled up together in a swing. (Their cage is a mess right now!)

https://vid86.photobucket.com/albums/...pszehv8vfs.mp4
Even with headphones on and the volume on maximum, I was unable to hear the sound.

My guess from your video would be your budgie did this sound (the first 20 seconds): https://youtu.be/m4pya9JJFLA
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I was afraid it wouldn't be heard. I'm slightly hard of hearing, so I wasn't too sure.

I've spent a good hour looking through videos of various birds growling and hissing. Nothing seems to really match. This link is probably the closest. (And it's not even a budgie!)

growling lovebird - YouTube
I'll see if I can get closer if I hear it again, but it usually stops when I am close by because they are more concerned with what I am doing then.
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If the sound is more similar to a lovebird's then your budgie has likely learnt to mimic that specific sound.
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