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Old 10-25-2016, 01:48 AM
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Hey fellow budgie lovers!
It's been quite a while since I've been on her, but perhaps some of you will remember me. I'm posting here today in hopes of ideas or encouragement. I have two beautiful male budgies, Henry and Cedric. I adopted Henry as a baby so naturally he grew up very friendly. After a year I rescued Cedric who I believed to be young as well. Apparently he wasn't so never fully became comfortable around people despite my training. I've had them for several years and they absolutely adore each other, however I feel that I am not giving them the life they deserve and this brings me an extreme amount of guilt. The problem is Cedric barely comes out of the cage. You can tell he wants to but it too timid to actually do it, sometimes he does but he goes back after a few minutes. Henry is really friendly so he loves to come out and fly around, but he also goes back in after a few minutes to be with his buddy. With this being said they only come out for a few minutes every month or so which is horrible! Their cage isn't tiny but even so their life can't be that good locked in a cage at all times. This has got me onto thinking maybe I should try to find a new home for them? One with maybe an aviary or at least a really big cage with other birds...I just don't want their lives to be in a box, and if that means I need to find them a better home than I'm willing to try to find one. Do you guys have any advice? Also I live near Dallas Tx.
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Old 10-25-2016, 05:05 AM
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Keep trying and don't give up! Every budgie is different and it just takes time for them to fully muster up the courage to do something we want or what they want. Some budgies learn quick and are braver, others take time and are timid.
Giving them away to another home and letting them go I think will be completely unfair just because you think you're not doing a "good" job and that they are not going out of the cage. They may be very bonded with you and the thought of them being in another home will be tough on you and the birds (them getting used to another home and family again and getting stressed out).
I'm sure you're doing an absolutely amazing job and your budgies thank you - for giving them a happy and healthy life and for taking care of them. Don't beat yourself up and don't let yourself down.
I feel that way sometimes... Looking at my budgies and then telling myself that I'm not doing enough to make them happy... But in the end, and in reality, it's totally the opposite. Just us being there for them, feeding them, playing with them, talking to them and loving them is enough.

To encourage them more to come out, you can:
-place a bird playground near the cage with some toys and millet to try and get them to come out.
-place some toys, tree stands, perches outside the cage and just wait for them to come out or by placing them there.
-slowly taking them out while rewarding with millet and talking to them gently...
-or you can gradually train them to get used to the "outside-of-the-cage-world" while slowly getting them closer and closer to the cage door (so having them to step up, and gradually getting them closer to the open cage door. After they're comfortable being exactly at the cage door, you can then gradually take them out (getting slightly further and further) from the cage.
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Old 10-25-2016, 06:50 AM
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Welcome back to the forums, Rose!

If you are willing to take the required time to work with both of your budgies (in terms of strengthening the bond you have with them) and to enrich their environment by setting up some playful activities for them to do while they are out, they will gradually gain a new appreciation for out of cage time.
This can be achieved by using positive reinforcement techniques that reward good behaviour: https://talkbudgies.com/taming-bondin...-training.html

Given the fact you have had Henry and Cedric for about 3 years, it would be too much of an abrupt change and adjustment for them to go from a quieter life as indoor birds to live in what could be a larger aviary with lots of other budgies. They could be bullied, feel extremely overwhelmed, etc.

If you do decide for their overall welfare and happiness that they should be rehomed, then it would be best for them go to an experienced pet bird owner who will give both Cedric and Henry the love, care and attention they need.
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Old 10-25-2016, 09:06 AM
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Bless you for wanting to put their needs first!
Some budgies just do not want to leave the comfort of their home, though they might do occasionally. I have three birds who never move from the cage when it is open, they are perfectly content having the cage to themselves while the others are out and flying round the room!
This being said, an aviary is also a possible good idea, if you can sort one out. I chose four of my most active babies who I thought didn't suit cage life and took them to a friends aviary which I visit often and they are all the happiest they've ever been.
The truth is, if the cage is not small they will still live happily, may eventually come out on their own, but you could also look into getting them an aviary if you think they would do better in one
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I've seen some really nice walk-in aviaries that can be placed inside of a home. I've also seen some rooms that are 'bird rooms', where the birds live (but still have a cage to go into at night. Depending on your circumstances, these ideas may be helpful. Friends of mine are often away from home, but their birds have a whole room to fly about and play safely while they are gone. I am told they instinctively go back into their cages at night without coaxing in these 'bird rooms'. In one case, a large armoire was made into an 'aviary' so that the birds have more room to flutter around since they are rarely out. I am new to Budgie Husbandry, so my suggestions may have issues regarding safety, etc., but I just wanted to add some ideas.

I don't think we can all recreate the perfect habitat for our pets. Keeping them safe and healthy is most important. For me personally, I am less concerned about time out of the cage flying around. It's the interaction of having them sit on my hand, or watching them play with each other and their cage toys that seems most important. Changing up their cage toys is something I do almost daily.
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As long as their cage is truly large and has all the essentials, it is just fine that they don't wish to leave it.

If you have a cage about the size of a Prevue Hendryx F040 or F050 that will certainly give Henry and Cedric plenty of room to fly, play and enjoy their lives.

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Thanks everyone. I have had different toys, treats, and other play things to try to make it fun for them to come out. It's been over 2 years and Cedric still won't. I guess I've seen so many videos of budgies in the wild flying and playing with their flock that I'm scared I have a horrible Seaworld situation. Deborah, it is not that big. I do want to get one that size, however my room is pretty small plus I share it with my sister, so it is really squished as it is. Hopefully she won't mind and I can invest in a larger cage soon...
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What size is their cage? Perhaps if you post pictures we can make suggestions for things you might do with the current cage.
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Deborah, it is not that big. I do want to get one that size, however my room is pretty small plus I share it with my sister, so it is really squished as it is. Hopefully she won't mind and I can invest in a larger cage soon...
I understand your dilemma. What size is the current cage Henry and Cedric are in? Length x Width x Height
If both Henry and Cedric are active, eating, drinking and playing then I'm sure they are happy little fellows.
The fact that you give them the option of coming out and they choose not to tells me they consider their cage their "safe" place.
You are giving them the opportunity to explore and, as aluz suggested, you can continue to do so and reward any attempts they make.

I would certainly not rehome Henry and Cedric. Spend as much time interacting with them as you can.

It is best to have the largest cage possible while ensuring the bar spacing is not wider than 1/2".
I have a small room too (9x12) and currently have three (and recently had four) of the F40's crammed into it along with a queen sized bed and night table.
The nice thing about the F40's and F50's is they roll easily so I can move them around the room as necessary when cleaning, accessing the closet, etc.

Good luck with your sister and let us know how things progress.

Best wishes!
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You could hang the cage up on the wall on bookshelf hangers. That would leave you with more room.
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