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Old 11-06-2016, 01:43 PM
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My little female budgie falls off her perch every night since I brought her home from the pet store. She is probably around 8 months old now, maybe a little less. She has a male budgie companion who doesn't have the problem. Sometimes I hear her falling around 3am, and put on a light to coax her back up on a perch. Sometimes I don't hear her, and wake up to find her holding on to the side of the bottom of the cage. Once I take the cover off the cage in the morning, she can find her way again. I am considering keeping a 'night light' of some sort near the cage, with enough light to help her find her way in the dark, but not enough light to keep them awake. Maybe I'll just cover the top 3/4 of the cage, leaving the bottom open to the night light, an electric candle or something like that. I hate to see her stunned every night or morning from falling/fright. Luckily, the male budgie doesn't have the same problem.

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I'm sorry that you are still having problems with your budgie.
If you have taken the advice and followed the measures recommended on your previous thread, the night fright issue should have been under control by now: https://talkbudgies.com/general-budgi...rch-night.html

I'm finding strange that your budgie is having night frights on a daily basis since you have gotten her and her mate is not affected by it, even though he is sharing the cage. When night frights happen, it's common for all budgies to panic.
Does your budgie only fall off the perch at night? Does she have an overall good balance when moving around and going between perches?
Does she have a strong grip on her feet?

Given her history, it would be good to have your budgie girl examined by an avian vet specialist. And since she falls down so much, be sure to cushion the cage with a small towel or soft cloth.
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I agree with aluz. Her falling off so much isn't normal, especially since the mate isn't affected. She could have a neurological problem where she is unable to balance, which is why it's best to get that cleared with an avian vet.

You should have a night light in the room, as well, that will help her find her way.

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Given her history, it would be good to have your budgie girl examined by an avian vet specialist. And since she falls down so much, be sure to cushion the cage with a small towel or soft cloth.
I agree. It seem so strange. I thought at first it was slick perch, but since she falls off any perch, it seems to be physiological at this point. I have noticed she is not as 'able' as the other budgie. Since I have so little experience, I should take her to the avian vet in town. She flys around the 3ft..x 3ft cage with her buddy, but is 'sloppy', and not as agile as he is. She sort of slams into things while he manoeuvres expertly in tight spots. Her wings were clipped when I bought her. I took the advice of the pet store people. So I thought that may be part of her sloppiness. But now she falls every night while sleeping. So....I'll take her in and figure this out!

Thanks so much for your advice. I really appreciate you expertise.

P.S. Oh, yes, she only falls/frights at night usually around 3am-ish. She lands well on perches and the cage, but is not as agile....wings clipped is the cause I think. I've never seen her fall off a perch while she is awake.

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I agree with aluz. Her falling off so much isn't normal, especially since the mate isn't affected. She could have a neurological problem where she is unable to balance, which is why it's best to get that cleared with an avian vet.

You should have a night light in the room, as well, that will help her find her way.

Best wishes with your budgies! Let us know how she is doing soon.
Thanks! I am setting up some xmas lights/candles around the base of the cage that will shine up into it and give her some guidance in the night. Hopefully they will still stay quiet with 3/4 cover, so I can sleep. I'm always just 10 feet away from them while I sleep. And a nice soft towel like Aluz mentioned only at night in the bottom of the cage so her landings will be soft. Poor little darling. I'll make it work!

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This is something that your budgie girl may have been born with, and at this point it would be good for her to be thoroughly examined by a specialist, so that you have a better idea of what is going on with her and if whether there is a treatment that can improve her overall condition when it comes to her motor skills and general mobility.
You could place a couple of platform perches on the cage, if she happens to use these to sleep for the night, the chances of her to fall down are greatly reduced if not even eliminated.

She is an albino, right? From my past experience of raising Inos (albino/lutino chicks) and owning them, I did notice a difference between them as far as overall health/immune system is concerned and this was something I had to work through in order to improve the lineage.
I had a few Inos that seemed to have sensitivity to bright lights and this would make them crash land more often while flying and I have also had an albino to hatch with shortened wings which rendered him unable to fly.

Best of luck at the vet's.
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I took her right in to the vet this morning. And by the way, she didn't fall/fright last night with the lights and the 3/4 cage cover! So that was good. The Vet found nothing physiologically wrong with wing size (he said sometimes born with shortened wings makes them sloppy), and neurologically she seems fine as well (he checked thru her eyes with scope for odd structure indicating neuro problems). But he did feel she has suffered from the clipped wings so young. He stated if her wings were clipped while she was very young, it can hinder their flight/balance practice. He also said she had strong body/grip, and will probably grow out of the night frights and unwieldy flight as she gets used to her new flight feathers (they are almost grown back now). I WILL NOT RECOMMEND clipping wings on young birds unless absolutely necessary for some reason. Neither does the VET.

So considering all of this, and the fact that she didn't fright/fall last night with the dim light on, I am hopeful she will be fine in time, and as good at flight as her mate. I feel much better knowing all of this.

Just a note to any reader....Do find an 'Avian' Vet. I am lucky to have two available for emergencies 24/7 in my town. A regular Vet is OK in an emergency, and can keep a sick bird alive that is dying, or splint a broken limb in a pinch, but cannot accurately diagnose avian disease and their behavior. Lack of practice with the species.

Thanks everyone for your help. I just love this site. I feel I am in good company while I learn about birds, and answers and support is just a click away.
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That's wonderful that Moonshine is healthy and you were able to find an avian vet to take a good look at her

I agree that overclipping wings until they are that short should never be done. In extreme cases, it can even damage the bird's flight for the rest of their lives

However, light wing clipping to prevent babies from hurting themselves or because of other reasons is sometimes recommended The topic of wing clipping tends to come up a lot, and many have widely varied opinions on it, so I would ask members to refrain from commenting on the matter here

Anyways, I hope that soon your little one figures out how to balance with her new wings! I'm glad the forums are helpful to you--I love TB too!
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I forgot to mention my 'plan of attack' on this problem. Now that I know there is no medical issue we know of, I think the night light on the outside bottom of the cage will make the difference. I think she wakes up with a noise or something ( me snoring?) and freaks, but since she seemed fine last night with the light, I am hopeful it's the fix. Who's afraid of the dark? ME and my BUDGIE! Thanks again everyone. I'll let you know in the next few weeks if she is better.
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Great to hear the good news . Hopefully the light for your bird was all that was needed. I wanted to ask though.. you said above that you have Christmas candles at the base of the cage? Are these electric or battery operated light to 'look' like candles, or are they actually candles? If so, we strongly advise against the use of candles as a night light. Even if they are unscented, I would never leave anything burning unattended while I slept.

EDIT: I appologize, I just read that you said "electric candles" . Just leaving this post up for others, to warn against candle use around cages.
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