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Old 11-07-2016, 07:26 PM
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It's heating season again... The room where I keep budgies is very small so I have no maneuver space and the radiator is near their cage. I thought it's ok because it's warmer (and during the day they are flying anyway) but this evening I noticed they moved away their wings from bodies like they are hot so I immediately turned off the heating and let some fresh air in. Now I'm worried keeping them there, I don't want them to overheat. Is it dangerous keeping them close to radiator (it's off at night!)? I can also keep it off at day but then it might get chilly in there... In the morning it is around 17-18C in there (63-64F).

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Old 11-07-2016, 07:54 PM
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It is important your budgies aren't in a draft and that the temperature fluctuations do not happen rapidly.
How hot are you keeping it with the radiator on and exactly how close to the radiator is the cage?

If the radiator dries out the air in the room, you'll also need to consider using a warm mist humidifier to add moisture to the air.
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I don't believe temperature fluctuates that much - it is never above 22 or 23C. And we don't keep heating on all day, only when it gets under 20!
Cage is really close to the radiator, like 30cm away but it's located on a wooden dresser which is taller than radiator and the dresser is covered with paper sheets (for budgie poop lol) so I guess dresser and paper also absorbe part of the heat. I also put wet towels on radiator for moisture because air does tend to dry out! I've been keeping bawls with water on radiator for moisture but I think towels are better
What else should I do? Should I keep the radiator off? I can't keep their cage much further because this room is tiny! I know it's not exactly the best place for birds but apart from the radiator, the room is budgie-proofed!
On semi-related note: do budgies have heat receptors in their feet? Because sometimes (rarely) they would land on radiator pipe. It's not boiling hot, it's mildly warm but I wouldn't feel comfortable running barefoot there lol. Don't worry - I don't let them land there, I was just wondering...
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If the budgies land on the radiator or radiator pipe they can definitely burn their feet.
This is something you do not want to allow to happen.

Can you post a picture of the cage relative to the radiator?

Is there another room where the cage might be better situated?
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That's why I said I don't allow them to land there, even though our radiators are not boiling and you can keep your hands on them without any consequences for instance. I was surprised they would even want to land there because of the heat.
I thought this room was the best as we are currently remodeling and living at my parents so budgies can have their peace... My parents are old, forgetful (dementia) and used to living alone so they forget to close the windows and doors, they cook (unlike us lol) and smoke (not inside but I don't want to risk it). In couple of weeks we're finally moving to a new place so budgies will have a brand new location, far away from heating! They will be close to the window though but it's actually glass wall (with screen so they don't bump into it) so I believe there is no draft.
I managed to pull them a bit further away from the radiator but now you can barely enter the room and they don't seem to like the new place. I think I'll keep the radiator off most of the time, it's not that cold here yet!
I'll post a picture when I come home.
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For my own comfort, I pack my room full of plants during the winter. Lots of big palms and large leafed plants everywhere! It helps keep humidity comfortable. My sinus are very sensitive, and I really suffer in the dry weather inside without them. I also have many aquariums in the same room as my birds and plants. So it is very comfortable. I think humidity is more important than the heat, in most cases. Regarding little humidifiers....they are a waste of money. They don't even raise humidity by one degree unless you are sitting right on top of them. You would need to get a big room humidifier that costs hundreds of dollars to really make a difference. That is why I stick to plants and aquariums. Beauty and utility.
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I'm sorry, but I disagree with the previous poster's opinion regarding humidifiers.

Small room humidifiers are quite helpful for budgies as well as people and you do not need to be sitting right next to it.
I use a warm mist humidifier in the room with my birds and it helps tremendously.
There is absolutely no need to buy a large humidifier that costs hundreds of dollars.

Please be sure all plants kept in the rooms where your birds have their out of cage time are completely safe for the budgies.

https://talkbudgies.com/general-budgi...afe-toxic.html

Those with aquariums should be very careful to ensure they are covered if kept in the same room with birds who have out of cage time in that area.
Budgies can easily drown in even a water dish or dog bowl.
It is best to keep toilet lids down, fish tanks/bowls covered, and avoid leaving dishes to soak in the sink while your bird is out of the cage.

Additionally, one must consider whether keeping budgies in the same room with aquariums is putting the birds at additional risk for infection. Please see the information in the following threads:

https://talkbudgies.com/housing-budgi...same-room.html

https://talkbudgies.com/budgie-behavi...bad-combo.html

With regard to these matters, I advise everyone to do your own research.

Back to the Original Poster's topic regarding the location of the cage.

Given the additional information you've provided, Jasna, I believe the cage will be fine where it is - especially since you will have the radiator off most of the time.
I'm sure you will be very excited about moving into your new place in a couple of weeks! Congratulations!

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Thank you all! Yes, we can't wait to move )))
I was thinking of getting some plants also because now we don't have any but I'll make sure they are budgie-friendly. My budgies REALLY love to eat greens so I don't want them to mistake potted plants for vegetables.
Also, my budgie family is getting bigger (we got one more and I think they've grown!) so I think they'll be getting a bigger cage soon. They have 2 cages + one small for transport but they all prefer to be together in one.
Also, couple of wires broke on this cage and I'm currently covering them with cuttlebones and other stuff so budgies can't reach them. Do you know is it possible to fix it? Couple of wires are detached from one side. If it's not possible to fix it, they'll be getting a new cage even sooner!
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For your budgies' safety, it would be best to get them a new, sturdier cage.
In the meantime, try to make sure they are unable to exit through the opening made by the detached bars.
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Unfortunately the only way to fix this problem is to have it re-welded, so I agree that they should have new cages as soon as possible! If the toys/cuttlebones in front of them detach or shift, they could try to squeeze out and get very injured

I'm sure they will love their new cages, though!
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