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I really need help with my two budgie's behavior, Mango and Berry.

Mango is the older one (currently 3 years) and I'm PRETTY sure she's female.

About 2-5 months after we got her, she started rubbing her bum on her perch by grabbing her toy bell with her foot, and if I just let her be, eventually she would spread her wings, lift her foot, and rub aggressively..

I read online that usually rubbing bums indicates it's a boy, but I'm not too sure if my Mango is a boy, especially for the fact BERRY tried mounting her.

For Berry, he's 1 year. Same timing (around 2-5 months after we got him) he started copying Mango. I can almost guarantee Berry is a boy for his extremely blue nose. When Berry rubbed his bum, I don't remember him spreading wings like Mango..

This is more about Mango, we moved Berry's perch away from his bell, which makes him complain quite often, but no rubbing. As for Mango, there isn't really room in her cage (they both have separate cages) to move her bell or perch. I also checked Mango's bum (for missing feathers?) in case you're wondering, and I think it's okay..

Both of them are happy, hand-tamed birds, that love to sing and sometimes copy actions (like bobbing/nodding head).. But Mango likes to bite everyone but me for some reason, Berry rarely bites and usually it's by accident.

If needed, I will send pictures of both budgies.

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Hi there.

Sure, it's also good if you can send a few pictures of your little darlin's to introduce them to the TB Flock and get a better idea of the gender of your budgies.

In the meantime, it is not uncommon for female budgies to rub their bums whilst playing. My Nutmeg used to do that on occasion with my hand but I tended to discourage her from that, but she was a budgie who loved me and became attached to me.

It can very well be a sign of breeding condition, too. Or, a poopy bum. If she has no problem with poop becoming stuck to her bum, then you are probably looking at a playful, bum-rubbing budgie Mango who may be a girl or a boy, but pics please!
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Hi and welcome to Talk Budgies!

What you are describing is normal "mating" behavior and both genders are known to pleasure themselves in such a manner.

If you post pictures of both Mango and Berry's ceres taken in natural light (no flash/no direct sunlight) then we can confirm their genders for you.

It concerns me you indicate there is no room in Mango's cage to move her perch. What are the dimensions of the cage?
Length, Width and Height?

The very minimum recommended size cage for one budgie is
18"x18"x18" and bigger is better.

Providing your birds with out of cage time, interacting with them, giving them lots of shredding toys, wooden toys and swings will help them redirect their energy.

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Hi there and to the forums!

You've been given great advice regarding Mango's behaviour

I look forward to meeting both your little ones soon!

Meanwhile be sure to read through all the links provided above as they will keep you posted on the very best of budgie care practices!

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Mango Being Caught - YouTube Mango Being Caught (recorded today)
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To me it looks like Mango is also a boy with the, what looks like uniform pink cere.
A better picture in full daylight would be needed to confirm for certain though
2 pretty birds you have there though
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Well hello there you too handsome budgies. Yeah, I think ReneBC is right. Mango may just be a boy and quite a frisky and playful little birdie I might add.
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Although the picture of Mango isn't the best for determining gender, the cere does look to be a translucent smooth pink color indicating he is male.

The fact that Berry tried to mount Mango isn't really relevant. Male budgies will sometimes try to show dominance over other males in that manner.
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I recently noticed that Mango is rubbing more often than usual..


Better image?
Also, Mango's nose is tan looking with white around nostrils incase images aren't good enough.

Also (this isn't about rubbing), Mango tends to "attack" everyone but me. She only attacks me when I try to get her from a place she's already comfortable in (she doesn't but me hard, it's really rare). By attacking, she would fly to your shoulder and bite your neck, chin, ears, fingers, or really anywhere to be honest, but she bites really hard and I know this because my mom screamed once, and everyone tells me it hurts alot.

Started when we put her in an aggressive budgie's cage when we got her, and learned to bite.

Help? My family doesn't want her around and sometimes "swats" her, which makes me really sad.

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If any members of your family are "swatting" Mango then that is going to make him more aggressive.

It's very distressing to me that anyone would treat a budgie in that manner.
A budgie is a small fragile animal and if it is smacked or hit - bones can be broken or internal injuries suffered.

A budgie should always be treated gently and respected for who and what it is.
When family members are unable or unwilling to act accordingly, then it may be best for you to rehome your budgies to someone who can give them a safe and loving home.

It's no wonder that Mango bites given the situation he's been exposed to.
Many budgies bite when they are in breeding condition and hormonal.
Exposure first to an aggressive bird and not being swatted at is exacerbating the problem.
The proper method of training a bird is to use positive reinforcement.
Please review the stickies at the top of the Taming and Bonding section of the forum.

[Mango is probably male but you haven't posted a clear picture of the entire cere]

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