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Old 11-24-2016, 02:34 PM
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I really dislike stereotypes of most anything because, well... many times that's all they are "stereotypes". Life is so complex that there are just too many exceptions out there. My budgies are a good example.

As Mink has become an adult (1yr 9 mo), and Chip has become closer to maturity as well (7 1/2 months), I notice something about them as individuals that seem to go against all the budgie stereotypes concerning gender that we tend to hear over and over.

Mink proves that females aren't always bossy, difficult, or more dominant. Although budgies as a species are one where the female is generally the most dominant of the pair, Mink is extra easy going for a girl budgie. She's a 'nice' girl . That's not to say she never gets cranky, but even in her crankiest moods, she's never really that bad honestly, not toward humans nor Chip. I've never allowed her to get broody, but even while in condition, she's surprisingly tolerant and easy going. I never saw a marked change in her behavior going from baby to adult. She was handfed, and has even maintained her tameness. Chip was also handfed, but he is now fairly wild.

Now Chip's adult personality has emerged... as a teenager, he has really undergone a marked change in behavior as compared to when he was a baby. I think he has developed into a macho type of guy . He has always been extremely active, but he has now started to become very vocal. Both noisy and louder than my previous male budgies. He is also now the dominant one between the two. When I first got Chip, he and Mink were pretty evenly matched. They'd have small bickerings over a perch or swing, then neither one would 'win', and after a few seconds they'd forget about it and continue sitting where they were. Now, apparently, what Chip says goes . He isn't 'aggressive' towards Mink, but when they bicker he always wins when Mink backs down and moves away. Although she does 'try' to stand her ground for several moments first. I think she needs to take lessons from other hens and learn to assert herself more . Don't get me wrong, they are still good friends, and overall get along well .

I thought this was an intersting observation to bring up, to show individuality, and that you can't necessarily predict behavior based on gender stereotypes.

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Since Chip is growing up, he wants to wear the "big boy" pants!

I also have a very good example from Dinda, one of my budgie girls.
She loves to sing and can rival her male flockmates, she's also very attentive towards Tito Junior and will be the one to and feed/preen him when required.
She's definitely the giver out of the two.
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I loved reading the update regarding Mink and Chip's personalities.
Every budgie is unique and your two are proof in the pudding!
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Dynamics in budgies is so interesting!

Of all my budgies that were paired up, the girls were the stereotypical stronger of the two.
I've never had a boy who stood up to his bonded mate, although pecking order in the flock is very different and a higher ranking male will move a hen from the perch he wants to be on, although now there is obviously an order to things, I'm not certain what the ranking is now. No one stands out really as the boss of everyone, though Lucy does seem to rule pretty well.
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It's definitely interesting to see how individual they all are. Those of you with flocks get to observe a pecking order as well. Then to think how non-bird people just see them as all the same! My late male Twigs was quite an aggressive boy too.
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Although all three of my female budgies are very young, none of them display the characteristics stereotypical of female budgies. Two are very tame and Wabi-sabi is very gentle.
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If they're very young, they could change upon maturity. But then again, you never can tell !
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Julie, I've found it interesting that since I've had the budgies all in together, Jimmy and Jay are nearly always together.
They were buds before Sage and Sunny came along and loved one another and it was Jay who showed interest in the girls first.
With Sunny's passing, Jimmy had no mate and although Sage and Jay get on well, they're never really closely bonded. So since they can all be together now, I always see these boys together. Jay does still feed and look after Sage but he is enjoying have his buddy back.

I think it's another stereotype of budgies that if you have males and females together, hormones will go crazy. I don't know if I'm just lucky right now, but I have no concerns about any of them being broody or trouble brewing. It might have helped that mine had their own cages and a lot of interaction before the big move in together, who knows.
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Julie, great post!

I agree completely

They are all so different, stereotypes are disproved all the time, and it's great to read about how much Mink and Chip's personalities have evolved
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Emma, your flock is a great example of males and females getting along, no hormones going crazy, and nothing to cause worries. Hopefully things will stay easy for you in that regard with the newcomers and new personalities in the mix now. At least you have separate cages in the event you should need to separate some eventually. I'm glad to hear that Jimmy and Jay are back hanging out . You do have a mix of personalities at least in the established group that work well together.
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