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Old 11-28-2016, 07:30 AM
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Its time to move one of my budgies to stop the bickering. I have noticed yesterday and today that zuko is getting left out and bullied off decca.so who do I remove. The hen Suki or the bully Decca or my poor Zuko.if I put Suki in her own cage will the boys get along better or will it be best to put zuko by himself. Maybe get him a friend. What would you do thank you

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Old 11-28-2016, 07:45 AM
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The fairest thing to do is to move the aggressor, in this case Decca.
If Decca and Suki are bonded, then you can also move Suki.
For the lone budgie who will be caged solo, you can work on-on-one in terms of building and solidifying the bond. By interacting and spending daily quality time with your budgie, you will be satisfying his social needs and keep him happy.

For now it's too soon to think of getting Zuko a buddy, give time for all 3 budgies to settle and get familiar with these changes and to get to know each of them better, in order to later on make a more educated decision later.

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That is amazing advice thank you I appreciate it so much.

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Im slightly disappointed to be honest. I was always under the impression budgies got along really well and the sole reason I ended up with Zuko and Suki was for Decca when he lost his mrs. Of course I didn't think there was going to be a female in the mix, that was a mistake but it is what it is and I hate bullying of any kind. My confusion is I hope I'm not being hasty.. @aluz can you please explain to me the difference between normal squabbling and when it's a problem. The swings at night time cause a problem. Zuko seems to cry every night for an hour to be on the posh swing. There are 3 swings in the cage so he can have one if he wants but he always wants the one Decca is on. Also one minute Decca seems to be having a go at Zuko, when I say having a go I mean beak bashing in a nasty go away manner but 5 minutes later Decca is tap tap tapping zukos beak in the flirty friendly manner.. I will not tolerate any kind of bullying and the spare cage is there waiting to separate them but am I being too hasty here and reading the signs wrong. Suki beak bashes them both most of the day but she's the boss.


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I'm sorry that you had to learn this way that not all budgies (regardless of gender) will get along well. This goes for other species of pet birds too.

It's not that difficult to tell when observing your budgies interact and reach a logic conclusion based from the behaviour exhibited and the context of the situation.
Heavy pecking, constant chasing, not allowing a budgie to eat at peace or play with a given toy are all red flags. Beak fighting and heavy bickering can escalate into vicious fighting with time.

This subject has been talked about before on this thread where you have been advised and again the same advice given applies here: https://talkbudgies.com/general-budgi...y-budgies.html
On this older thread you mentioned that your female, Suki was the one with a more difficult temperament.

Since you are the one in a privileged position and have full access to your budgies, by watching and interpreting their behaviours you will be able to make a decision for their own welfare, safety and happiness, even if that means housing each budgie on a separate cage.
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To be honest they all have there moments, they have only been together a couple of weeks and I'm not experienced enough to know what's normal and what isn't.. today has been a bad day for all of them but I couldn't let them out yesterday as we had visitors and I couldn't supervise so I'm thinking maybe they need a good fly.. they are all out now.. I'm in control of the situation so I will use my own judgement. The spare cage is set up and ready to use. Maybe one of them will decide for themselves that's where they want to be and fly in there , knowing my luck they all will...on a serious note though I have had amazing advice and I appreciate it so much. I guess I'm learning every day. Thank you

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Will it be OK to try zuko on his own first and if that doesn't work then try each bird separate to see if things get better or will this traumatise them in some way if I keep moving them around.I had to buy another new cage today (cage number 7) as the ferplast one was hitting the ceiling, it was too high. So I bought a vision cage but I really didn't feel safe with it on top of the other cage so I have rearranged my room and put them next to each other. Also can they have supervised out of cage time together. I do worry In case i make any mistakes and do the wrong thing.. what if the alone bird wants to be back in the cage with the other 2.. I think I need to chill a bit.

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Zuko will not be traumatized. On your other thread you have mentioned that all 3 budgies aren't truly bonded and by having one or more budgies in separate cages will not be that bad because they will still be sharing the same room and have the cages close by.
You can allow all 3 to have supervised out of cage time together if they behave well when interacting between them and don't get into fights.
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That's my misson for today thank you kindly

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I have separated zuko, he's in a cage alone next to the cage with the other 2 in. Hes not happy but I am sick of feeling my heart ache when he's last in line to do anything and getting wrong off the other two all the time. What happens now? , will he settle eventually. He is sitting in the big swing all to himself singing is that a good sign. He is such a gentle soul and I feel like he would really benefit in having a friend of his own , He's so desperate to be friends with the other two and they just don't really like him. When Decca is out of his cage though all he does is sit on the new cage next to Zuko so I honestly can't work out what is going on here. Am I being to soft in thinking a friend for Zuko would be ok. How can I tell if zuko is happier in his alone cage.

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They are a bit like people. Most like to have friends, but not just anybody will do. It would have to be a good match for his gentle soul. Some people are excellent at evaluating temperament and finding birdy buddies, but that takes a lot of experience. Just going out and getting another bird is not necessarily going to work!
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