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Old 12-02-2016, 02:36 PM
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Here I go again.. something is not quite feeling right with my 3. Currently I have zuko caged by himself and Gladys and Decca together.. I'm not happy, it doesn't feel right. Zuko and Gladys have been together forever and splitting them up feels wrong. So.. I'm thinking with this smaller cage I have could I get another bud quarantine it, and then introduce it to Decca and house Decca and newbie in ferplast 5 and zuko and Suki in ferplast 6 after quarantine of course. . Decca is energetic and flighty and when he was with sunny they were happy together,swinging off lampshades and mirrors and wrecking my bedroom , He's just not feeling the vibe with the big buds and I feel by getting him Suki and zuko so he wouldn't be lonely I have just made the situation worse. I have absolutely no intention of rehoming any buds as I love them all equally and put them all before myself. I'm just feeling that pairs will work out better.I need an energetic bud for Decca. So which sex should I go for. Would a pet shop bud be OK then at least I can stand and watch them to choose the right friend for him, or would the breeder I got Decca from be better.. I do not want to make any more mistakes as i feel I'm just making mistake after mistake and I'm not settled and either are the buds. Thanks in advance for advice

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Given the recent problems you have been having with your budgies, now is not the best time to get a new budgie:
https://talkbudgies.com/general-budgi...y-budgies.html
https://talkbudgies.com/budgie-behavi...g-one-bud.html

For now, it's best for you to give your flock the time to settle and adjust to the latest changes. Adding another budgie so soon could make things even more overwhelming for you and you are also in the process of getting used to having 3 budgies.

Later on, when you have a better idea on the overall temperaments and personalities of your latest two additions and once you have a more in depth understanding of the situation by evaluating the behaviours and interactions between your 3 budgies when having out of cage time together, you will be in a better position to make a choice for your flock's welfare and happiness.

If you decide to get a friend for Decca with the intention of housing the two together, then getting a male friend would be a good option because male budgies can become great friends and you won't have to worry about potential eggs. Choosing a good breeder would be the best option.
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Once again amazing advice thank you

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You've indicated you've made some mistakes with the birds. That's good.

Right now, you need to let the birds settle and don't worry about them as much. Let your little flock settle and get to know them and one another. Watch them interact and see how they get on together and maybe in the spring time, consider another new addition if you feel it would still benefit you.

If you do decide to add another bird, it really needs to be much later in your current birds life. The reason being, you will be much more likely to pick a bird that fits your flock once you know them better rather than exacerbate the situation by adding a bird that doesn't fit in with the others.
it will benefit your flock to wait, as well as you, a if you add another bird ow, you'll just worry about how the new bird will fit in.
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Your so right @therm it will make me more anxious. Everything you said makes absolute sense..I just want happy buds, if they are happy then I am happy.. now one more thing , I currently have zuko by himself. Will it be OK if I feel like the wrong bird is alone to switch them to see who gets along better with who or is that just messing the birds around. Today when they were all out together , they were in and out of each others cages at different times eating each others food and playing with each others toys. At one point Decca and zuko were in zukos cage kissing which made me think that maybe they should be together..Decca and suki seem to bicker alot more without Zuko in there cage , when it was bedtime they all flew into the big cage and I had to remove zuko and put him in his own cage before lights out. It's difficult when your not sure if your doing the right thing or the wrong thing. Is it OK for them to use each others cage as a free for all. My thoughts are as long as they are getting along it doesn't matter but I could be so wrong.

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If Decca and Zuko seem to be content and happy together, then you can cage them together if they have no history of fighting.

When I had four or five cages set up and my birds paired up together they didn't always want to go back into their own cages. Sometimes they would go in a cage and there'd be two pairs or odd numbers. For a long time I stressed over getting the right pairs in the right cages.
With time, getting to know my flock, and the support of the staff here, I started to realise that as long as the birds were content and happy, it didn't matter too much if they did spend one night with more than one pair in a cage- as long as there was no fighting and if I had the chance to let them out on their cage the following morning.

Realising that I had to get to know my flock and learn their own personalities and traits took time but I know my budgies well enough now and it helps when deciding what you need to do that will be the best for them.
It will come with time and confidence.
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That eases the stress for me so much.. There has never been fighting before ,no feather pulling or biting just bullying, and like there kissing but slightly more forceful, I noticed as soon as I put zuko in the other cage Decca was in the cage with him and i am presuming because the hen was doing her own thing else where the boys got along much better. I guess time will tell and it's good to know there is amazing advice on hand. I will keep it as it is for now and let the buds decide where they want to be and who with as long as there is no nastiness going on... is it a common thing for them to squabble over food though, Even though there is 4 food dishes they seem to all want to have the one food dish as there own , same with swings , i have 9 swings in total , I've tried all ways. I bought 3 the same at one point and they still all squabbled over a certain one. They are alot more children than I ever thought. They are fascinating creatures and I love having them in my life

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So, however my birds have been set up with cages, usually when one goes to feed, the others hear them eating and are like 'oh wow, I want to eat too', and if I have a pair to a cage nearly every time the boy would go to the food first and the girl would decide she had to eat from that exact food pot.
Usually with pairs, the boy would just hop off over to the other food pot because he was smart enough to not argue.
When there's been a mixed group together, it goes much the same but depends on the flock ranking. One ale goes to a food pot. They'll be like 10 other food pots, but the next boy down, higher in the ranking than the first there, wants to eat from that food pot, he moves him out the way. Then a female comes down, she wants to eat from that same food pot... and so it goes on.
They all eat, there's no fighting, they know their ranking in the flock and they just go to a different food pot.
I just give them plenty of food pot options

Swings are another bone of contention. they always will be because no matter the swing, it's the position of the swing in the cage that is desirable.
Sometimes mine all want to be down one end and bicker about the swings, but it's nearly always settled quickly and they get to bed.
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You've been given excellent advice.

Getting a fourth budgie at this time is not something I would recommend.
You need to take the time and have the patience to really learn your current birds' personalities and observe their interactions during out-of-cage time.

Again, I'm going to ask that you take the time to read the information in the stickies an in the budgie articles.
Reading other people's threads regarding behavior, multiple birds, etc. will also give you a better understanding on the intricacies of possible dynamics.
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You might find some of the ongoing picture threads help as a lot of members talk through their current situation with their budgies.
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