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Default Question about Smoke from Cooking - But not Teflon Related

Most of my cooking is pretty harmless (boiling, low heat cooking, poaching, etc.) --- and I only use stainless steel and I have one cast iron skillet.

My question is about my cast iron skillet, but perhaps it could apply to a stainless steel prepared dish as well.

My budgie isn't in the kitchen, but sometimes cooking certain foods might emit smoke. This happened once with my cast iron skillet (blackening sweet potato hash)... and I stopped immediately (it might have been from the smoke point in the oil used)... but it got me thinking.... if you're using bird-safe cookware.... but there may be smoke emitted.... I'm thinking this can't be good. ...?

So I'm thinking I need to be very conscious of pan heat temp....? (And switch to avocado oil which has the highest smoke point. I've used it before.)

And I was thinking....there are some things that I would cook in a cast iron skillet that would create smoke regardless....I'm thinking certain meats, not something I do often (& haven't since I brought my bird home 4 months ago).... is that harmful?

Thanks for your thoughts.... !

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When taking the necessary precautions it's not harmful, simple things like having a kitchen with good ventilation will do the trick.
A fully functioning kitchen chimney will take care of most of the smoke, if your kitchen has a window, that will further had air circulation.
Having the bird's cage in a different room (away from the kitchen area) with the door closed and also having the kitchen's door close will be more than sufficient to keep everything under control.
No cooking scents, nor smoke will ever reach the room your budgie is in.
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Ok, thanks.... I will lock him away in another room if cooking anything that might smoke... which fortunately isn't very often.

Unfortunately, my older Manhattan building, while a wonderfully quiet building, is pretty bad when it comes to kitchen ventilation. This isn't too uncommon in many NY apartments. My previous apartment was brand new and in a pricey new building, and the kitchen ventilation there wasn't that great either. Better than where I am now... but not great. Kitchen windows in Manhattan are ideal.... I've had that once.

It's a real jigsaw puzzle with city apartments to get the right combination of price, location, convenience, amenities, noise, views, etc. .... and there's always a compromise. Often you have to trade one thing to get another.

Thanks for your advice and now I have a solution that I'll deploy no problem. However I'm still curious about the smoke from cooking (but not a teflon pan) being harmful. I'm going to take all precautions to avoid any smoke.... is it to safe to assume that cooking smoke (from a smoking steak or a smoking oil) even in a bird-safe pan.... is harmful if the bird is in proximity ...?

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I can tell you from past experience that normal cooking smoke (excluding smoke from burnt food) is not harmful.
In my almost 30 years of budgie ownership, I never had a pet bird to succumb from simple cooking smoke, nor any other type of smoke for that matter.
I have a fireplace too and take precautions and my household has always been free of smokers (as in people who smoke).
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Ok, great... thanks. I appreciate your thoughts. Good to know. While I'm in the typically-compact quarters of NYC apartments, I'll take the precautions you mentioned just to be safe. While it's probably ok, I'm glad to take the extra step. I don't cook anything that might smoke very often... so it's no problem.

This is all good information to have for future, because even in a less-compact unit... so many of the apartments, even large ones, are "open-plan" and loft-like ... so the kitchen often isn't fully in a separate room.

Thanks again for the advice.
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Here is a link to something my vet wrote, see page 7 about toxic fumes
https://nilesanimalhospital.com/files...zards-2013.pdf
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Thanks Cody . . .that's a great paper. I'll definitely keep it and share with others for reference. I see the notes on page 7. I am going to exercise extra caution. Fortunately, I don't do serious cooking very often, and in general most of what I cook is low heat. I'm not much of a master chef to play around with high heat. And now that I have a budgie, no need for me to experiment. Thank-you for sharing.... !
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