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Well I have not posted here for a while but here's an update. You were all right ,I did have to separate my 3, Decca and Suki ended up bonding,(i never seen that one coming)they hated each other at first , so they are in a cage by themselves and they get along just fine, zuko has been by himself for weeks now. Decca was becoming over protective of Suki and not letting zuko anywhere near her. Anyway my partner bought me a friend for zuko as a surprise Xmas present.he thought he was doing the right thing but I hate to admit I wasn't happy. I had to tell him I just wasn't ready for it.I wanted to see how zuko got on by himself first. My partner has had this beautiful bird he has named winter staying with him since 2 days before Xmas... zuko I feel does needs a friend, he won't bond totally with me,he's not really doing much and when he's out to play with the other two he sits off to the side.when he's alone in his cage he sits as close to the other cage as possible just watching them even though I've encouraged play and interaction with him , he's basically miserable.I hoped over time this would change but I can see Decca and Suki only have eyes for each other. Winter seems to have a laid back personality (not sure of gender) so I think maybe this could be what zuko needs.so question 1
Will I still need to quarantine, even though winter (I will change name when I find out gender) has been in a different house with no other pets for 4 weeks and has showed no signs of illness
2. How do I introduce zuko to winter in the correct manner.
I will send pictures if you don't mind so you can help me with the gender as I have no clue .I'm presuming winter is a female only because she's so laid back and not vocal.
If they don't get along my partner says winter can stay with him its no problem, so I have nothing to lose by trying.
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The minimum time for quarantine is 4 weeks (1 month), so if possible you could extend it for a couple of weeks longer.

The information on this link should be useful: https://talkbudgies.com/new-budgie-ar...o-budgies.html

Given the past problems you had when you got Suki and Zuko and how overwhelmed you were with the 3 of them, extending the flock by one can further accentuate the problem.

I don't know if you have attached photos of Winter on your post, if you did then they aren't showing up.
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Old 01-22-2017, 06:57 AM
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This is winter, what gender please? , I will leave it a couple more weeks before I introduce them. She is at my house now though in my daughter's bedroom, just hearing him chirp has perked zuko up although he/she doesn't sound like a budgie , is he/she she definitely at budgie. I will agree I was VERY overwhelmed before, I didn't expect the problems that arose I thought birds just got along but i have realised there personalities are so different and sometimes they can clash.. I have a routine now where we are all happy..if you could help with the gender it would be a good help so I can name him/her appropriately. Thank you

A guess of age please if possible thank you

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On the first picture, the cere seems to have a tan colour, if that is what you see for real, then Winter is a female who is starting to come into breeding condition.
It's difficult to tell the age of a recessive pied budgie, especially after they go through their first moult.
If Winter is coming into breeding condition for the first time, then that would make her at about 6 - 7 months old at the least.
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Emma,

From the pictures you posted, it appears Winter is a very pretty little girl.
Were those pictures taken in natural light?

url=https://talkbudgies.com//showthread.php?t=177394]For gender and/or mutation help - Lighting and Angle DOES matter[/url]

Cere Reference Guide - Talk Budgies Forums

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Telling the Gender of Young Budgies - Talk Budgies Forums

Exceptions to the rule in sexing your male budgie - Talk Budgies Forums

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Unfortunately, from those pictures I can't see her eyes so I really can't give you an estimate of the age.

When the quarantine period is over, if you introduce Winter and Zuko using the method in the link aluz attached for you, hopefully the two of them will get along fine and be able to be housed together in the future.

Please be sure to keep us updated as things progress.
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Yes in total natural light. She doesn't have iris rings but she does appear to be molting quite bad. I thought she was a girl as her cere has a tan tinge to it bless her. Thank you And will follow the info in the link. Thank you and I will keep you all updated 😃

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You're very welcome.

Recessive pied budgies don't develop their irises, they remain dark in colour.
That's one more trait that makes it challenging to give an age estimate with accuracy (after going through the first moult).
Some recessive pied budgies will even keep some of their baby barring no matter how many moults they have gone through (two of my adult females have kept theirs).
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Hi again , I'm thinking maybe my new bird (I can't stick with a name yet) could still be young. I can still see baby bars but faintly ,does that mean she is younger than once thought. Also her cere is the strangest colour. In some lights it looks boy and some lights it looks girl.. she acts like a hen though , no voice and pecking and pulling everything to bits and kicking seed around.. I'm bringing her into my room this weekend to put her cage next to zukos to see what happens. I have a feeling it will be fine,he is so laid back.on the other hand I think Suki maybe put out by her presence. They won't ever be housed together so no worries there. Heres another picture can you see the baby bars?

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Oh I've just read the comment again above. Baby bars in this mutation can stay anyway. Oh well. I guess I will never know how old. Can the cere colour be harder to judge the sex in this mutation also, or not?.

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