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Old 02-03-2017, 02:28 AM
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Question Leave cage door open all day?

Hello,
Have had my budgie Yogi for about a month now. He comes out of his cage almost every day, and I have been leaving his door open while I am at home with a perch close by on the outside hoping he will come out.

He is comfortable enough to sit on my shoulder for awhile while I do chores around the house, and will stay on my finger for awhile and will allow me to pet around his cheeks and will puff out his crest for me when on my finger.

Even if left open all day, he will not always come out. Is it better for me to leave it open all day, for him to get more comfortable coming out? Or do you think this could be stressful for him since he is a new arrival. Maybe I should just leave it open part of the time while home? Any input would be appreciated, thanks!

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Unless you are home all day and supervising your budgie (as in truly watching over him) for the whole day, you could hypothetically do that.
Still, it's not very realistic to assume you would be able to do that and while you are in a different room from your budgie and he happens to come out of the cage while you are unaware, there are risks for your budgie's safety, especially if he is given free reign of the house.
You may come into the room to not find him, he can get into trouble if he accesses a room that is not bird proofed, he could take advantage of a forgotten open window on an area you weren't expecting him to reach to make an escape, etc.

Certain household shores such as the various kitchen duties (prepping and cooking and having meals, doing the dishes on the sink, etc) should be done when the budgie is safely inside the cage with the cage's doors closed.
Other potentially dangerous chores include vacuuming, ironing, washing floors, etc. Anything that keeps your focus away from the pet bird, allowing him/her to get into trouble when having out of cage time is to be avoided.

To sum up, for overall safety reasons, it's simply best to leave the cage's door open only when you are home and able to give Yogi your undivided attention for the duration the door will be open for him to come out if he wishes to do so.
If you start working with him in terms of establishing a bond, building trust to later on begin training (by teaching Yogi the step up to your finger command), this will make the out of cage time less stressful and it will be much easier to take him out and bring him back inside the cage.
You will have all the detailed information by checking the stickies at the Taming and Bonding section of Talk Budgies.

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Alright, thanks for the advice. But if I'm in the room with him, and paying enough attention to him [his cage is right next to the couch where I'd be watching TV] you do not think it would be stressful for him to leave the cage door open all day?

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When you are in the same room with him, you can have the cage door open.
If he wants to come out, he will and if he prefers not to, that is fine as well.

However, you will need to establish a routine whereby he will go back into the cage when you need him to do so.
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However, you will need to establish a routine whereby he will go back into the cage when you need him to do so.

Yeah, I've definitely had a problem with this. In the evening he likes to fly on top of a clock, really high on the wall. When it's time for bed and I go to put him in his cage, he will step up and the second I head towards his cage he flies back up to the clock. Little buster! We did this about 10x the other night, before he gave it up and begrudgingly went to bed. lol.

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Does Yogi pop back to his cage for food while he's out?

When he goes for his last meal, or when you last feed him in his cage, I would make this his routine time to finish his out of cage time.
It's best if your not getting his resisting and getting his dinner when he goes in should make him happy enough about it.
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Positive reinforcement training with regard to returning to his cage will be very important. As Therm has indicated, having Yogi return to his cage for his meals will be quite helpful.

Does he step up willingly for you?
When my birds are too high for me to reach, I use one of the wooden ladders and hold it up for them to step onto. Then I can easily carry them back to the cage and deposit them where they need to be.

I have untamed budgies that go back in their cage because I've used positive reinforcement training to teach them they will get a reward when they do so.

Initially, when I was ready for them to go back in the cage I would first dim the lights and pull down the shades in the room. If the radio or TV was on, I turned it off.

Then I would stand by their cage and ringing the bell on one of their toys while telling them, "It's time to go in your cage now!"

Once they went back into the cage, they were given a small bit of millet.

This method worked well and they now go in the cage when asked to do so without the lights being dimmed or the blinds lowered and the TV or radio can stay on.

Getting the millet reward is the best part of "going back home"
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He usually goes back to his cage to eat. And it's only been 1 or 2 times where I really had trouble getting him back in.... And when that happened I gave him millet when he got back in. Thank you all for the advice, I will definitely use the tips you all have given me!
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