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DavidW 02-21-2017 06:40 PM

Parakeet and English budgies in same cage?
 
Hello all,

One of my three English budgies died, so I've been looking for one to adopt to replace him. An avian rescue organization I contacted said they have no budgies available but asked if I'd consider adopting a parakeet instead. Is that OK? One of my budgies is a big boy (60g). Would his being twice the size of a parakeet be a concern?

Thanks.

David

StarlingWings 02-21-2017 06:50 PM

Hi David,

By "parakeet", are you referring to American/Australian budgies? Both English and American budgies (referred to as "parakeets") are both budgies, and are both the same species. The only difference is that English budgies have over time been selectively bred for certain characteristics. :thumbsup:

If this is the case, they can be housed together once the new budgie has been quarantined and they have been introduced properly :D

Therm 02-21-2017 07:08 PM

You need to find out what they mean by parakeet, as they dismissed this being a budgie. I'd be a little concerned! lol!
Also, I would try and find out if this budgie is used to other budgies. While it's likely fine you adopt him/her still, you might just have to be more careful with an introduction.

DavidW 02-21-2017 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StarlingWings (Post 3952153)
Hi David,

By "parakeet", are you referring to American/Australian budgies?

Yes, thanks. My question is really about mixing budgies of different sizes. If I adopt a 30g bird, is he going to be spending a lot of time just staying out of the 60g bird's way?

DavidW 02-21-2017 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Therm (Post 3952169)
You need to find out what they mean by parakeet, as they dismissed this being a budgie. I'd be a little concerned! lol!
Also, I would try and find out if this budgie is used to other budgies. While it's likely fine you adopt him/her still, you might just have to be more careful with an introduction.

Thanks. Where I live, budgies are almost always referred to as parakeets, so when I refer to English budgies, people know there's a difference -- or they say, "What's a budgie?"

StarlingWings 02-21-2017 10:02 PM

Most budgies do just fine with other individuals that are larger or smaller than they are. In fact, it can often be the smallest, most hyperactive American budgies that cause more trouble for the often more laid-back English budgies! :giggle:

It all comes down to personality, not size, with regards to English and American budgies coexisting ;)

DavidW 02-21-2017 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StarlingWings (Post 3952297)
Most budgies do just fine with other individuals that are larger or smaller than they are. In fact, it can often be the smallest, most hyperactive American budgies that cause more trouble for the often more laid-back English budgies! :giggle:

It all comes down to personality, not size, with regards to English and American budgies coexisting ;)

Thanks, that's good to know!

RavensGryf 02-22-2017 12:46 AM

Before I got my English male, I had a small American budgie in with my English girl. They were fine together. In fact, the smaller one was much feistier!

I understand about hearing budgies being referred to as parakeets. Even though technically, "parakeet" is the broad term used for quite a few Psittacine species who typically have long tails. Most also have smaller head and beaks than true "parrots". But many non-bird people over here in the US have only heard of budgies referred to as parakeets :).

FaeryBee 02-22-2017 05:01 PM

I'm not that far away from you and used to live in Gaithersburg, MD.

I believe the U.S. is the only country that refers to budgies as "parakeets" and that is one of the things we as a forum try to educate non-bird owners about whenever possible. ;)

The more often we publically call both the Australian/American/Pet type as well at the English/Show type "budgies" the better able we are to get the word out to others. :D

Please remember to quarantine the new budgie.
Quarantine means housing your new bird in a different cage in a different room as far away as possible from the room where your current bird(s) are housed for a period of 30-45 days.
Budgies mask symptoms when they are ill. Symptoms may not show up for over two weeks.
Often you will not even realize your bird is not well. Many budgie illnesses are airborne which is why you need to quarantine your new bird in a completely different room.

It is also a good idea to always take a new budgie in to see an Avian Vet for a "well-birdie" check-up. This allows you to develop a good relationship with the vet and the vet can establish a baseline for your bird in case of any future illnesses or injuries.

Distinction between an Avian Vet and a Vet that "Will See Birds"


When you are ready to introduce your two budgies after the 45 day quarantine period, please be sure to introduce them in neutral territory. Sometimes having two or three supervised meetings prior to moving them into one cage is advisable. Before introducing a budgie into another budgie's cage, the cage should be completely rearranged (perches, toys, food and water dishes) in order to help prevent any potential territorial issues. :)

https://talkbudgies.com/new-budgie-ar...o-budgies.html

DavidW 03-03-2017 12:28 AM

Dilemma continues
 
The situation has changed to this:

There are two birds up for adoption, one male, the other likely female.

If I adopted both and they attempted to breed, I would feel pressured to remove and boil the eggs -- which I can't do from an ethics perspective.

If I adopted only the male (to join my other two males), the female would be left potentially lonely and bored.

If I adopted the young(?) pair, they might make things uncomfortable for my docile, elderly English budgie.

I want to do what's best for each one of the birds, but I'm not sure that any of those scenarios can be considered falling into the "best" category. What's the the best scenario for the birds in this instance?


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