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Old 06-07-2018, 05:45 AM
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So someone I know popped in for a visit tonight and met Kowhai for the first time. He was birbing about, grumping at me for his seed, and being his general social playful self. I held him while I talked with the acquaintance who had never seen him before and expressed her surprise at how friendly he was. Then she said something I've heard at least twice now from two separate people who've met Kowhai.

"Wow, he's like a pet!"

The sentence both makes me laugh inside, but also feel a bit sad. What is everyones thoughts on this? The fact that so many people seem to be surprised at how birds can be family members and friends (and even if not tamed, still loved and spoiled as members of the family).

I don't know if it's the general and sad state that most birds live in small cages and are sadly neglected - and that that's how most people who are exposed to birds see as the norm. Or could it be that while there is lots of advertisements, tv shows, and general knowledge for dogs and cats, there is an under-representation of birds? That cat's and dogs are seen as companion animals but birds are not thought of as companions?

I'm not really trying to make any point or anything. I just find it fascinating as this phrase keeps getting said to me over and over. Has this happened to anyone else? What is your response?

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Old 06-07-2018, 11:25 AM
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What gets me is "Wow your birds are so spoiled!" just because I have a nice large cage for them. Yeah, that cage is big but you should see how happy they are to have all of that space! I kept Tetra in a cage that was a little smaller than the minimum for quarantine and I was so sad when I realized that's what most people keep them in, it's so small. Also, "you feed your birds vegetables?!" Yes, it's a necessity so they can be healthy. I haven't had anyone say "Oh then they're like a pet?" to me, but I understand the frustration.
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Don't get me started I could go on about this subject at length. Many people are ignorant about birds, I think poor little budgies are very under appreciated and I feel that the ease of acquiring them and their low cost is a lot to blame, people see them as throw away pets because they are cheap if purchased through a big box store that gets the birds from birdie mills. It sickens me to see that pet stores even sell those very small cages and do little if anything to educate prospective owners on what is best for the bird. So many are sold as first pets for children without even the thought of ever taking them to a vet should they get sick or ever letting them out of the cage for exercise. Thinking about this subject really puts knots in my stomach, it makes me so sad and mad at the same time.
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Old 06-07-2018, 01:35 PM
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People just don't seem to realise how intelligent budgies are. Dot our budgie girl is out with us all day and just goes in her cage at night. Me and my partner take it in turns to go out so she is never left alone, very few people seem to understand why that is necessary but she calls even if we are in a different room for a moment. Unfortunately I think too many here in the UK think it's ok to have a Budgie and just keep it in a small cage and feed tril!
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I agree with you, it's maddening how people consider price to be the determinant of how much a life is worth. Budgies are not disposable pets nor are they in any way less of a bird than a more expensive parrot, or less of a pet than a cat or dog.

Despite our efforts on Talk Budgies, it's hard not to think about all the poor little birds out there who are cooped up their entire lives in horrible living conditions and treated as decorations and not individuals.

However, it's good that at least we know and value our own little ones and do our best to spread the knowledge people need to care for their own birds in the same way we try to.
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Most people I encounter will ask me if they are expensive. I tell people they are expensive in money but more expensive in time. Then I launch into my 'don't get a bird' speech that usually will put people off getting them. Those few who are still wanting to get a bird usually are bird people in the making
They also ask me if they are messy or smelly. I don't know where the smelly comes from; maybe from people who don't take proper care of their birds so their cages smell? I don't like to think about it.
This is why I don't let my two have babies. I know I take amazing care of them but I don't want 6+ birds and quite frankly I don't trust anyone in my area to take as good of care of them as I do, you know?
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Lots of bird prejudice out there. Any kind of bird, but I see what you mean especially with inexpensive and plentiful budgies. Itís very frustrating that many people wonít even consider seeing birds as intelligent animals capable of emotion and individual personality, and worthy of being cared for as one would a dog or cat. Many non-bird people see birds (even the larger parrots) more like vermin, or some sort of lower life forms just because they arenít mammals. Maybe itís the fact that theyíre so physically different from us mammals that people just canít relate, and donít want to. Those people sure are missing out, and itís their loss!
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What gets me is "Wow your birds are so spoiled!" just because I have a nice large cage for them. Yeah, that cage is big but you should see how happy they are to have all of that space! I kept Tetra in a cage that was a little smaller than the minimum for quarantine and I was so sad when I realized that's what most people keep them in, it's so small.
I know! Due to an injury Kowhai got, my vet had me buy a SUPER small cage (34x26.5x51cm) for Kowhai to be quarantined in so he could heal without moving around too much. It's too small for a bird to even be remotely happy in! (Though funnily enough, Kowhai refuses to sleep in his regular cage at night, he only wants to sleep in his quarantine cage in my room. I don't know if I'm being cruel by letting him have his way with that inhumanly sized thing!)

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Don't get me started I could go on about this subject at length. Many people are ignorant about birds, I think poor little budgies are very under appreciated and I feel that the ease of acquiring them and their low cost is a lot to blame, people see them as throw away pets because they are cheap if purchased through a big box store that gets the birds from birdie mills. It sickens me to see that pet stores even sell those very small cages and do little if anything to educate prospective owners on what is best for the bird. So many are sold as first pets for children without even the thought of ever taking them to a vet should they get sick or ever letting them out of the cage for exercise. Thinking about this subject really puts knots in my stomach, it makes me so sad and mad at the same time.
I'm sorry to bring up an upsetting subject. I completely agree with you. My parents surprised me with a budgie when I was 8 -they got it on a whim because it was so easy to obtain, and I was given no information on how to properly care for my bird aside from a bag of seed and a small cage. I feel so much guilt for how much my ignorance hurt my poor first budgie...I hope I can make up for it somehow...


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People just don't seem to realise how intelligent budgies are. Dot our budgie girl is out with us all day and just goes in her cage at night....Unfortunately I think too many here in the UK think it's ok to have a Budgie and just keep it in a small cage and feed tril!
I think that's a worldwide thing. People are always surprised that Kowhai sleeps in his cage or stays there when we are out, but mostly lives outside of it.

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I agree with you, it's maddening how people consider price to be the determinant of how much a life is worth. Budgies are not disposable pets nor are they in any way less of a bird than a more expensive parrot, or less of a pet than a cat or dog.
Yeah, sadly people equate price with 'quality'... :'(

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Most people I encounter will ask me if they are expensive. I tell people they are expensive in money but more expensive in time. Then I launch into my 'don't get a bird' speech that usually will put people off getting them. Those few who are still wanting to get a bird usually are bird people in the making
Yes! Kowhai cost me $45 to buy for his little self (but in reality he's priceless! ), but has cost me HUNDREDS in proper cage, toys, vet care, etc.

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Itís very frustrating that many people wonít even consider seeing birds as intelligent animals capable of emotion and individual personality, and worthy of being cared for as one would a dog or cat.
So many people I've met, talked to, etc, are honestly shocked because they really have never considered birds to be emotionally intelligent. I live in New Zealand, which nearly ALL native wildlife is avian. So people here do know more about birds, yet are just as scared of/unaware of them. I've come across lots of people scared of birds here. I know it's easy for me to be shocked since I'm the crazy lady who tries to make friends/learn about every bird I see, but it's stil sad to see...
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And..........budgies along with all birds, as late model dinosaurs, are living now, along side of we humans.
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Hi Star and Julie and all of TB members. It is a long time and I have missed you all a lot. How things have changed since 2011. There has been a lpt of learning By TB members and by those who just pass by.I am amazed by the
abundant awareness expressed on TB. I remember Deborah and many staff members who put in long hours Saving birdy lives and going on adventures to
bring birdies to safe homes and yes, even help police capture bird kidnappers and bring birdies safely home. What an amazing experience! Yes, there will always be a lot more to do, but look at the wonderful tools and people who have been members and those who have added and help educate potential bird parents. So much LOVE!!!and patience and beautiful birds to share. People like Lyn and Indigo in Australia we get to make friends all over the world. We only have 13 budgies now and one of them is Tweedle ,a sky blue pied, American and the very first budgie that we invited into our home nearly 12 years ago. I truly miss raising those amazing tiny chicks and celebrating first flight day . There are sad memories of losses we all have shared, even
when people in extended family or at work seem so insensitive to the pain we feel in our hearts, We are blessed to have the support of other TB members to assist in the healing process.

Celebrate the wonders we have all shared here on TB.

Many Blessings to All members of TB.

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