Hello! This is my first post ever. I really need to know something, I am upgrading my two budgies cage into a 30x18x36 cage, I was wondering how many budgies I could have? I have two females right now and I feel they would get lonely by themselves, i was planning on getting 2 more males. I think 4 budgiea is plenty, but if they had a clutch of eggs, would it be really overcrowed? I dont plan on them breeding but if they did, would i have to get rid of the babies once they grow? Thanks! :)
Hi and :welcome: to TB :)
Great to hear you are upgrading your cage size :) your budgies will be delighted with the extra space :thumbsup:
As for your concerns about loneliness, extra space is not an issue for loneliness especially seeing that they already have each other. Adding 2 males however will change the dynamics in the flock and should not be done without prior research and preparation.
If they did breed, you will need to have extensive knowledge and resources to step in if anything goes wrong (which it easily can). There is also the added risk of 2 sets of pairs breeding meaning double the care, double the increase in numbers etc.
I definitely wouldn't house two breeding families together which would mean you would need two separate cages for each breeding pair and then either a third or possibly a fourth cage to house the female parents away from the chicks (if needed - i'm not an experienced breeder but I have read that some females can become aggressive towards the chicks and subsequently needing to be housed separately).
There is also the possibility that introducing 2 more might not work out from a personality perspective and they may never be suitable to cohabit.
It is also recommended to keep an even number of budgies as an odd number can cause problems of bullying.
For now I would suggest seeing how your current female pair adjust to their new set-up.
If you really feel the need to expand on your flock, please do a lot of research and look at your overall situation and means to provide for potential outcomes.
Consider cost of equipment and veterinary bills, resources - access to an avian vet and perhaps an experienced breeder to fall back on for support if needed, space in your home (in the event some of them need to be housed separately or if they do breed (by this I mean both in the event of extra flock members (chicks) but also, separating the female), support, overall goal.
On a separate note, I would love to see pictures of your two females :D - what are their names? :D
Hi and :welcome: to Talk Budgies!
The cage you are getting for your two budgies is a good size for two. I can guarantee you two budgies will not be "lonely" so getting more for fear they will be isn't necessary.
While your cage would be big enough for 4, the more room each budgie has, the better off they are and I wouldn't advise putting four in that cage. ;)
If you do get more budgies in the future, you will need to quarantine them.
Quarantine means housing your new bird in a different cage in a different room as far away as possible from the room where your current bird(s) are housed for a period of 30-45 days.
Budgies mask symptoms when they are ill. Symptoms may not show up for over two weeks.
Often you will not even realize your bird is not well. Many budgie illnesses are airborne which is why you need to quarantine your new bird in a completely different room.
It is also a good idea to always take a new budgie in to see an Avian Vet for a "well-birdie" check-up. This allows you to develop a good relationship with the vet and the vet can establish a baseline for your bird in case of any future illnesses or injuries.
Distinction between an Avian Vet and a Vet that "Will See Birds"
Additionally, if you are thinking about breeding in the future, you will need to know as much as possible about budgies and their care and then do extensive research regarding best practices. You will need individual breeding cages for each pair.
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Hello, and thanks for the advice!!! ^_^ I do have another cage, the cage that my old budgies were in, which I can keep them in. I know they probably aren't lonely, but I just am really excited about this new cage, if anything I'd like to put only one in, but I know he/she'd be the third wheel which is why I decided to get two instead of one. Although, I think IF I ever do get two more, they'd both be female. For some reason I never thought of getting two more females instead of males, haha. Fortunately, my budgies are on the far end of my house, so I'd keep the other budgies in the other end so my original two won't get sick if the new budgies are sick. Also, to keep stress levels lowest as possible for my two budgies, I'm going to let my budgies get used to their new cage and toys for an entire month before even thinking about adding more budgies. So, there is 0 percent chance of them breeding, and if they don't get along I'll keep them in my old budgie's cage, and eventually upgrade them into another 30Lx18Wx36H cage. This is the cage I'm getting, by the way. :D
36" flight cage with stand
Not the best pictures, but that's them! The blue one is Bubbles, and the white one is Everly.
I fixed your links for you.
Bubbles and Everly are both very cute.
Oh they are beautiful :) Such little cuties :)
Thanks for fixing it :) I'm really excited to learn more about budgies and pet birds in general :)
Hey there and a belated :welcome: to the forums!
Bubbles and Everly are adorable and I'm glad you're doing the best you can to research and learn all about these little birds.
I hope things continue to go well!
If you have any questions after reading through the links provided by Deborah, be sure to ask as we'd love to help.
Hope to see you, Bubbles, and Everly around here ;) :wave:
Hi and welcome to the forum :)!
This is the cage that I have. It's basically a double of the one you have (has a removable divider in the middle). Bird Cages 4 Less: Search The cage came right away, and customer service was decent. I keep 2 budgies in the cage, and it's nice and spacious for them. I'm not planning to get any more birds for the foreseeable future, but I would feel uncomfortable putting more than 4 in a cage this size (double of what you have). That IMHO is maxed out, although it 'could' hold more, I personally wouldn't.
Bubbles and Everly are both cuties!
Very nice cage. That's the one I'm using to house two of my budgies as well.
When I first introduced it to them, I just placed it where their old cage is and they immediately flew to the top, then all of them went one by one to the cage.
Trust me, once they go in, they'll never want to go back. For better or worse.
Anyways I'm happy to hear your budgies are getting more space.
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