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I'm writing this post because right now I have a mice problem. Here's the thing, I vacuum everyday because when my partner & I moved in together we had no furniture, so his sister gave us her old couch. It has faux leather flecks that are worn off and go all over the carpet everyday... I can't stand that so I'm pretty much always vacuuming! I like things to be clean and tidy in our home.

I have been living inland (a very rural area) for a year now. I'm from a big city so It's a nice contrast, but I mean right as the cold was getting sharper they had a warning for mice approaching in the winter weather on the LOCAL NEWS. This was the weirdest thing to me!

I really don't know what to do you guys. We have 2 dogs and so do so many others on our street. We can't use poison. My boyfriend has been setting traps and has caught 2 over the last 2 days. But they're just going to keep coming since we have 2 birds and it's warm inside and obviously we are in a sea of mice. I resorted to covering the birds cage completely at night as best I could (as in leaving no sides open to try and make no entry to their cage) but I woke up today and saw droppings.... they had gotten in overnight. I am terrified that the birds are going to get sick! I mean this is just a huge huge adjustment for me living here and there's things that we need to do every year to make sure we can live comfortably like get the entire property spray treated for fleas each october before it starts getting really hot or else it'll be unbearable for me. It's just so different to the city and normally I'm happy here but right now.....!!

I am rambling because I am freaking out and stressed for my babies. I just don't know what to do to keep them away but most importantly out of their cage!!!

Please if you have any ideas at all to protect them from their cage please let me know!

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Make your don't keep food in open places or cardboard containers, which rats can eat right through.
Keep garbage in tightly covered containers.

Try to locate anywhere you think the mice may be entering the home and repair the areas so they can't get in.

When I had a problem with mice, I caught them in live traps and set them free outdoors.
Now, I will admit I did this about 28 times before there as no more problem.... but still, I did it!

This link provides good advice but be careful anything you use is bird-safe
(Bounce dryer sheets are not good to have around your birds!)

Eucalyptus branches with leaves as well as Cinnamon sticks are said to deter mice and are not harmful to your budgies.

5 Humane Ways To Get Rid Of Mice | Care2 Healthy Living

There are various methods to kill mice.
One is to place small dishes of instant mashed potatoes in strategic places with dishes of water nearby.
After eating the instant potato powder, the mice will need water.
Drinking water causes fatal bloating.
However, I'd personally would not recommend this because if the mice go into the walls and die then you are going to have a terrible odor as they decompose.
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Make your don't keep food in open places or cardboard containers, which rats can eat right through.
Keep garbage in tightly covered containers.

Try to locate anywhere you think the mice may be entering the home and repair the areas so they can't get in.

When I had a problem with mice, I caught them in live traps and set them free outdoors.
Now, I will admit I did this about 28 times before there as no more problem.... but still, I did it!

This link provides good advice but be careful anything you use is bird-safe
(Bounce dryer sheets are not good to have around your birds!)

Eucalyptus branches with leaves as well as Cinnamon sticks are said to deter mice and are not harmful to your budgies.

5 Humane Ways To Get Rid Of Mice | Care2 Healthy Living

There are various methods to kill mice.
One is to place small dishes of instant mashed potatoes in strategic places with dishes of water nearby.
After eating the instant potato powder, the mice will need water.
Drinking water causes fatal bloating.
However, I'd personally would not recommend this because if the mice go into the walls and die then you are going to have a terrible odor as they decompose.
Hi Deborah! Definitely don't have their food or anything in cardboard, in plastic containers and also away in a cupboard that's sealed off completely.

Unfortunately we are renting so we can't do much in terms of repairing things especially if we'd need permission for it. I think they are coming from behind the kitchen wall where the oven sits.

I wouldn't be able to do the live traps. Mice kind of scare me and my boyfriend hates them lol. We were looking into a poison friendly option and I might've found one called the big cheese, not 100% yet but it states that it's a safer option for pets and livestock.

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Take a look at the electronic traps that electrocute mice/rats.
They tend to be more expensive, but not necessarily so in the long run.
They have the advantage of a quick kill, no lingering death or decomposing bodies around and they seem to be easy to empty and reset without having to touch dead mice.
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Take a look at the electronic traps that electrocute mice/rats.
They tend to be more expensive, but not necessarily so in the long run.
They have the advantage of a quick kill, no lingering death or decomposing bodies around and they seem to be easy to empty and reset without having to touch dead mice.
Hi JRS thanks for this, I didn't even know that electronic traps existed, but to be fair they are sneaky buggers who seem to evade all traps and get food in the process. Will look them up now. Thanks again
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Bee like you I live inland in a cooler area to where I was on the semi rural outskirts of Sydney. Sheep area and lots of wheat being grown and stored. And like you we have had in influx of mice. Much rather have them than the rats we had where I used to be. You would kill them off and every time it rained more would come up the stormwater drains, and much harder to get rid of.

If you have an IGA they have a newer type of mouse trap called Safe N Sure. A twin pack is under $4, really easy to set made of plastic and the best bait is smooth Peanut Butter. smear it on the trap area and set the trap. And it kills instantly. Easy to get them out as you just press the setting handle and they drop off, don't have to touch them at all. Australian made and made of recycled plastic. Does not break the skin of the mouse either so no bleeding. I have found them to be extremely effective.

Personally I find it useless to catch them live and release them as they will only come back or head to someone else's home and give them the problem.

Mortein also put out a different type of mouse trap with a front cover that you lift to bait the trap, again with the peanut butter. Close the cover and the trap is set by a lever outside of the trap. Has an entry in the cover for the mouse to enter. It is safe to use around children and dogs and cats as they cannot get to the bait area and set the trap off. More expensive but it works. Can't use it in the cage with small birds though as they may be able to get in. Available at most supermarkets and hardware stores. Called a Secured Mouse Trap. Can be used indoors or outdoors and you can easily release the mouse without touching it.

You can also now get bait stations that dogs and cats can't get at the poison inside, only small things like rats and mice. Luckily I have a number of industrial ones of these as a friend works in the pest control industry. But places like Bunnings and I think Woolworths have household versions of them. They can be put around outside as they are waterproof.

Hope this gives you some ideas.
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Bee like you I live inland in a cooler area to where I was on the semi rural outskirts of Sydney. Sheep area and lots of wheat being grown and stored. And like you we have had in influx of mice. Much rather have them than the rats we had where I used to be. You would kill them off and every time it rained more would come up the stormwater drains, and much harder to get rid of.

If you have an IGA they have a newer type of mouse trap called Safe N Sure. A twin pack is under $4, really easy to set made of plastic and the best bait is smooth Peanut Butter. smear it on the trap area and set the trap. And it kills instantly. Easy to get them out as you just press the setting handle and they drop off, don't have to touch them at all. Australian made and made of recycled plastic. Does not break the skin of the mouse either so no bleeding. I have found them to be extremely effective.

Personally I find it useless to catch them live and release them as they will only come back or head to someone else's home and give them the problem.

Mortein also put out a different type of mouse trap with a front cover that you lift to bait the trap, again with the peanut butter. Close the cover and the trap is set by a lever outside of the trap. Has an entry in the cover for the mouse to enter. It is safe to use around children and dogs and cats as they cannot get to the bait area and set the trap off. More expensive but it works. Can't use it in the cage with small birds though as they may be able to get in. Available at most supermarkets and hardware stores. Called a Secured Mouse Trap. Can be used indoors or outdoors and you can easily release the mouse without touching it.

You can also now get bait stations that dogs and cats can't get at the poison inside, only small things like rats and mice. Luckily I have a number of industrial ones of these as a friend works in the pest control industry. But places like Bunnings and I think Woolworths have household versions of them. They can be put around outside as they are waterproof.

Hope this gives you some ideas.

Hi Kate, thank you so much! So you know how it is then since you're in land too and it's just a big problem during winter. I have a super IGA right near my house, I will go there tomorrow and see if they have the trap you mentioned. I didn't know peanut butter is best so Thankyou for that also! My boyfriend has been using strawberry jam and cheese lol. Use what you have right.

With the bait stations I looked them up. What we were worried about with the dogs is if the mice died and then they ate them, I believe this won't happen though because our younger dog patch frightened one to death once (he wants to play with anything he sees regardless of his size) and it was just left there till my boyfriend disposed of it. So I don't think they'd eat the mice, but that's what we meant when we can't use poison because of the dogs. The dogs wouldn't eat the poison directly.

Do you think the mice come through vents too?
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I sure do know the problem during winter. I have the same problem with pets as I have dogs and a cat. One of my dogs is only 6 months old (Kelpie/Coolie) and she is teething and chews lots of things. She would probably eat a mouse as well, so would the cat. What you need to be careful of is poisons that are secondary killers, that means it will kill the mouse but will also be harmful to anything that eats the mouse. Where I was in Sydney we had owls and other raptors as well as my pets and other peoples pets, so I was extremely careful what poison I used. Poisons like Tom Cat are secondary killers. I use Ratsak Wax Blocks that you can get from the supermarket and have had no problems with that. The industrial bait stations I use have an area inside them where you put the poison and it is threaded onto a wire bracket that locks inside that area of the trap. The bait stations I use have a locking mechanism that requires a special type of key to open them and the dogs (even large dogs) cannot open them.

Yes the mice will come in through vents. They only need a very narrow gap to get through. One thing you can do is put steel wool into the holes and gaps, they won't chew through that. I'm not talking about the modern steel pads that you use for washing up, but the old fashioned stuff that will go rusty when it gets wet, the ones without soap are the best. Usually available from hardware stores and stock feed stores in the country. I have it jammed into the holes in the wall for things like the tv aerial cable to stop them coming in there.

Oh and it is pretty much a fallacy that mice love cheese, they actually don't particularly like it. Some of their favourites that we used to use when all you could get are the old fashioned wooden traps where pumpkin seeds, bacon jammed onto the trap and cooked using a match and black jelly beans. They seem to love the aniseed flavour of them. But they can nibble at those and get a good feed without setting the trap off, and you usually have to throw the wooden ones away after they have made a kill as the mice and rats won't go anywhere near them a second time because of the dead mouse and rat smell. The plastic ones are much better as you can wash them and remove any of the smell from a dead mouse or rat. Use hot soapy water and vanilla is also good for removing smells, like the smell of humans on the traps.
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I sure do know the problem during winter. I have the same problem with pets as I have dogs and a cat. One of my dogs is only 6 months old (Kelpie/Coolie) and she is teething and chews lots of things. She would probably eat a mouse as well, so would the cat. What you need to be careful of is poisons that are secondary killers, that means it will kill the mouse but will also be harmful to anything that eats the mouse. Where I was in Sydney we had owls and other raptors as well as my pets and other peoples pets, so I was extremely careful what poison I used. Poisons like Tom Cat are secondary killers. I use Ratsak Wax Blocks that you can get from the supermarket and have had no problems with that. The industrial bait stations I use have an area inside them where you put the poison and it is threaded onto a wire bracket that locks inside that area of the trap. The bait stations I use have a locking mechanism that requires a special type of key to open them and the dogs (even large dogs) cannot open them.

Yes the mice will come in through vents. They only need a very narrow gap to get through. One thing you can do is put steel wool into the holes and gaps, they won't chew through that. I'm not talking about the modern steel pads that you use for washing up, but the old fashioned stuff that will go rusty when it gets wet, the ones without soap are the best. Usually available from hardware stores and stock feed stores in the country. I have it jammed into the holes in the wall for things like the tv aerial cable to stop them coming in there.

Oh and it is pretty much a fallacy that mice love cheese, they actually don't particularly like it. Some of their favourites that we used to use when all you could get are the old fashioned wooden traps where pumpkin seeds, bacon jammed onto the trap and cooked using a match and black jelly beans. They seem to love the aniseed flavour of them. But they can nibble at those and get a good feed without setting the trap off, and you usually have to throw the wooden ones away after they have made a kill as the mice and rats won't go anywhere near them a second time because of the dead mouse and rat smell. The plastic ones are much better as you can wash them and remove any of the smell from a dead mouse or rat. Use hot soapy water and vanilla is also good for removing smells, like the smell of humans on the traps.
Hi Kate, yeah that's what we are worried about- secondary poisoning. I'm so glad that you said you have been fine with the ratsack blocks, but then again are you sure your pets have eaten one if the mice after they were poisoned? I was reading last night online about poison that is pet friendly and found the brand The Big Cheese. Apparently their poison is a safer option for live stock and dogs/ cats. Have you used them, too? What made you use ratsack in the beginning? (As in being confident to start with that one).


I'm not sure where I can get steel wool from. I could check bunnings. That's where The Big Cheese is sold. It's more expensive (almost $20 for a pack) but many more blocks in it. So we'd be putting steel wool in the gaps like the Ariel, the vents (if I can if they aren't sealed with anything like screen over them) but I'm not sure what to do with behind the oven as I'm sure they are coming from there too. Can't like, pull the oven out. Right?

Your pup sounds adorable and also it would be so interesting living around owls, Ive only seen like one once in my life during a school camp as a kid.

How are you going with your mice issue? Do you still spot them Inside? Just so worried about the birds.
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I used the Ratsak mainly because of its price and availability in the local Woolies. Until I moved I was property rich and very cash poor being on a pension. One of the reasons I sold up and moved was the ability to have a little nest egg invested and still own my own home. And I hated living in an area where there was so much development going on, went from a lovely semi rural area to a massively built up place with houses right on top of one another and no back yards. I now have large paddocks between me and my neighbours on a 1/2 acre block of land and a lovely old home with 12 ft ceilings and a lovely fireplace and much more. Quiet community of under 300 people that is just like where I grew up. And I am only about 1 hours drive from Canberra.

I have seen the Big Cheese but have not bought it. Where I was we had a rat problem and I know for a fact my dogs had killed and eaten rats that had obviously been eating the poison baits. Was not too impressed with them doing it but it was done before I could get the rats away from them. If you feel more comfortable buying the Big Cheese go for it.

I know the mice have been getting into my kitchen from the back of the stove, and I have a massive stove, but they were coming up onto the bench and that is where I put the traps. I seemed to have an influx of them last week and I set the traps out and caught quite a few. Only seen one or two since then that I haven't caught, but I will get them to.

You should be able to get the steel wool from Bunnings. My nearest one is in Canberra but I have seen it in Boorowa at the local Thrifty Link Hardware.

I don't keep budgies anymore, I have Sulfurs, Corellas, Lorikeets, Princess Parrots and Alexandrines and they would be more than likely to attack the mice if they did manage to get into the cages. Still setting up my aviaries here as I have only been here 8 months.

I haven't seen any owls since I have been here but I do see Hawks and the like down here.

Yes Swanie is a sweetie, but a total rogue as well. So lively, just a totally hiper pup that really keeps me on my toes.
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