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Housing for Budgies Discuss Cages, Cage Set-Ups and Aviaries

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Hi everyone,

I am wanting some advice on something I have been considering for a fair while!

We have four budgies- Kirby, Kiwi, Bluebell & Sunny. They currently live in a large flight cage in our second lounge room.
We are soon moving house & we wonít have as much room to have them & my cockatiel inside.
We will only have the one living room & my husband doesnít really want them in there.

In the new house there is an undercover veranda so there is the possibility of keeping them in their current cage & just putting them on the veranda.

My other idea is to actually buy a shed type aviary.

I used to have so much time for my budgies but I now work full time & we have a baby on the way to think about so Iím thinking outside is best as they do make quite a mess inside.
Only one of my original budgies (Kirby) is still tame but she prefers the other birds company too so I donít feel she will miss my company.

Being on the veranda they would still get some attention from us but Iím worried itís not safe enough with potential cats or other animals getting into the yard.

My concern with an aviary is most of them come with one door you open to put food etc in and my budgie Kirby will try to come straight to me & is used to being able to fly out of the cage if she wants.

Also Iím worried about when it gets hot how they will cope! Theyíve never been spoilt with aircon inside but still living inside is cooler than out. Same with how they will cope with the cold.


This is the kind of aviary I was thinking of- got this pic off google.
Any advice if youíve transitioned your birds from inside to out? Any suggestions where to buy good quality aviaries?





As for my cockatiel she is hand raised so we are really unsure at this point what to do as she would be unhappy by herself outside but my husband is concerned about how dusty she is.


Also how do you hang toys/perches in aviaries?!
Feel free to show me photos of your aviaries or outdoor set ups! Would be much appreciated!!



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Hi Sarah

I don’t have birds outdoors and I’m not fully aware of your climate extremes or wildlife considerations, so can’t fully answer your questions. However..

Try to time the birds move to outdoors to be at a the start of a period of mild weather, to allow them to gradually acclimatise. Also consider which areas are shaded and sheltered, and therefore better suited to site an aviary.

If going down the aviary route, then you really need an aviary with a double door. Something like this:
https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/melb...he-/1169896128

Perch and toy placement is dependent on the aviary style, but often involves drilling a small hole through which to poke a perch bolt (obviously need to think through carefully). With aviaries being generally larger than cages, larger perches and branches are easier to use (which also means less holes). Toys can be hung from perches.

Alternatively, would it be possible to somehow add wire mesh to enclose your veranda (or part of it)? Likely more costly, but it may enable them to be let out of their cage for some exercise, and also allow you to ‘sit out’ with your birds and enjoy them more.

Congratulations on the baby news, I hope all progresses well and best wishes for a smooth house move.
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Sarah,

You've received very good advice from Julia.
The only outdoor aviary type that is even partly safe is the sort with double doors.

I, personally, would not advise you to move your budgies and your cockatiel into outdoor aviaries.

We have members how have lost birds in outdoor aviaries to hawks and other predators.
I live in a townhouse and a hawk even tried to come through my patio door after my budgies!

If you do decide to make the change and move your birds outdoors, you will be putting them at greater risk from not only predators but from disease as well.

Is there another room (rather than the living room) in the new house where the budgies and cockatiels could be housed?
With regard to the dust from the cockatiel, do you have an air-purifier? They help tremendously.


https://www.herebird.com/best-outdoor-aviary/

https://www.customcages.com/suncatcher-bird.html

https://www.customcages.com/suncatch...y-catches.html


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Hi Sarah

I donít have birds outdoors and Iím not fully aware of your climate extremes or wildlife considerations, so canít fully answer your questions. However..

Try to time the birds move to outdoors to be at a the start of a period of mild weather, to allow them to gradually acclimatise. Also consider which areas are shaded and sheltered, and therefore better suited to site an aviary.

If going down the aviary route, then you really need an aviary with a double door. Something like this:
https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/melb...he-/1169896128

Perch and toy placement is dependent on the aviary style, but often involves drilling a small hole through which to poke a perch bolt (obviously need to think through carefully). With aviaries being generally larger than cages, larger perches and branches are easier to use (which also means less holes). Toys can be hung from perches.

Alternatively, would it be possible to somehow add wire mesh to enclose your veranda (or part of it)? Likely more costly, but it may enable them to be let out of their cage for some exercise, and also allow you to Ďsit outí with your birds and enjoy them more.

Congratulations on the baby news, I hope all progresses well and best wishes for a smooth house move.


I donít think it would be possible for us to wire mesh an area of our veranda. We could possible have the aviary under the veranda for more safety.
The other possibility is there is a small garden type shed right with our veranda which actually has windows. We could put the bird cages in that? Shutting the door at night to keep them safer? But Iím not sure it may get too hot. We could always kind of convert it into a larger aviary & have cages within it?





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Sarah,

You've received very good advice from Julia.
The only outdoor aviary type that is even partly safe is the sort with double doors.

I, personally, would not advise you to move your budgies and your cockatiel into outdoor aviaries.

We have members how have lost birds in outdoor aviaries to hawks and other predators.
I live in a townhouse and a hawk even tried to come through my patio door after my budgies!

If you do decide to make the change and move your birds outdoors, you will be putting them at greater risk from not only predators but from disease as well.

Is there another room (rather than the living room) in the new house where the budgies and cockatiels could be housed?
With regard to the dust from the cockatiel, do you have an air-purifier? They help tremendously.


https://www.herebird.com/best-outdoor-aviary/

https://www.customcages.com/suncatcher-bird.html

https://www.customcages.com/suncatch...y-catches.html




Hi Faerybee,

Thanks for your suggestions.
These are the very concerns I have, Iím just struggling to come up with a solution.
We really donít have anywhere else we can put them in the house, the kitchen dining area is open & of course we donít want them near the fumes of cooking. There is only the one lounge as I said & three bedrooms. I could probably convince hubby to let them be in one of the bedrooms for a while but he will want them out regardless eventually as we need that as our spare room for his Mum who comes to visit.

Iím hoping he will agree to let me keep bandit (cockatiel) inside as her cage doesnít take up quite as much space. Although she is the main cause of the dust. We do have an air purifier and must try to use it more often.


Our other option for outside is to convert the shed thatís already there with aviary wire in some places for more ventilation and to keep their cages inside the shed. That way they would be safe, I could enter and shut the door behind me & go about feeding & letting them still come to me if they wish in the safety of the shed.
But Iím unsure how that will work heat & cold wise.

I of course want the best for them, I want them to be healthy, happy and safe so will try to find the best solution.


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Ensuring you have a double door aviary and locating it under the veranda would be a better option than trying to put the cages in the shed.

What is the weather like where you are located?

You're going to need to take the extreme highs and lows of the temperature fluctuations into consideration as well as the risks from predators.

If you choose to house the budgies in the shed, you may still have a problem with rodents as well as how to heat and cool that area.

Hopefully others will have better suggestions than I.
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