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Deja 04-25-2018 07:25 PM

Joining together 2 ladies and other future housing options?
 
Been a while since I came on here...This place is great for research and info!

Anyways - I have two female budgies, 5 and 4 years old. When I first got #2 I did try and join them together in a large cage but #1 was spiteful and was picking on #2 really badly so I have since kept them in separate cages next to each other.

They do come out and hangout and follow (and copy) each other but they do not have any physical contact with each other. (If one goes into the personal space of the other they start bickering and pushing each other for a few seconds).

I have been planning on moving which means I will have more space. I am wondering and looking for opinions - do you think if I got one large cage again in a new setting they might live together okay now?

I also have been thinking (and have always dreamed) about getting 2 older male friends for them and having an aviary of 4. I have read a while ago that you need to keep budgies in pairs of twos, and to have an equal balance of male/female or more males than females. (from what I understand, please correct me if not). I would plan to go to my local specialty bird shop and see if they could get me in contact with a breeder who has older males. I think brand new young boys would be too full of energy for my older girls.

I also worry that budgie #1, the previously spiteful one has mellowed out over the years. She is now slower, calmer, and I wonder if she would get picked on by a higher energy pushy budgie.

If anyone has any input of experience putting elders together, let me know.
(I mean 5 years...is not really elder, but old)

RavensGryf 04-26-2018 11:23 AM

It seems to me, that there might still be the issue of not getting along enough well to share a cage. Since you say that even with free flight time out in the room (much larger area than any cage) they are still territorial about “personal space”.

Keep in mind too, that often times when adding more budgies and individual personalities, as well as hormones into the mix, it can escalate problems or potentially create new ones. If the girls are territorial with one another (or one of them is), then adding males into an enclosed space with them doesn’t sound like a good idea at all. Or if you are concerned about the one who has mellowed and slowed down, same thing.. it might not be the best idea.

Adding more birds (after quarantine), can add an element of stress not only to new birds, but to existing birds as well. Even when all get along, there is still the adjustment period under the best circumstances.

If they don’t get along, which may or may not be evident immediately, you’ll just have more birds to separate. Separating certain ones for out of cage time too, can be time consuming and big pain. I do this with my birds of various species who don’t all get along, and it can be a challenge.

Just some things to think about :).

FaeryBee 04-26-2018 05:58 PM

I would not recommend getting additional birds when you move.
There is no guarantee with regard to how any of the birds will get along and you could actually end up having FOUR separate cages instead of just TWO.

There are many things to take into consideration before getting another bird.

https://www.talkbudgies.com/other-pet...other-pet.html

1. If you decide to get another budgie in the future, please be sure to observe quarantine for the new budgie.

Quarantine means housing the new bird in a different cage in a different room than the current bird (as far away from the room the current bird is in as possible) for a period of 35-45 days.

Budgies mask symptoms when they are ill. Symptoms may not show up for over two weeks.
Often you will not even realize your bird is not well. Many budgie illnesses are airborne which is why you need to quarantine your new bird in a completely different room.

It is also a good idea to always take a new budgie in to see an Avian Vet for a "well-birdie" check-up. This allows you to develop a good relationship with the vet and the vet can establish a baseline for your bird in case of any future illnesses or injuries.

Distinction between an Avian Vet and a Vet that "Will See Birds"


2. Introducing the new bird to the current bird

Introducing two birds


3. Flock Dynamics
Flock Dynamics

Your Harmonious Flock

4. Where do you plan to get the new bird?

Why buy from an reputable breeder rather than a big box pet store


5. Vet Expense and Housing
Do you have the time, finances, etc to devote to another bird?

Are you ready, willing and able to house the new budgie separately on a permanent basis if it does not get along with your current bird after quarantine?



Be Prepared for Veterinary Care Expense

Deja 04-26-2018 07:35 PM

Thank you guys for your opinions.

Yeah...I've been dreaming but now really putting all the facts on the table about my current girls it's a situation where I don't want to stir up trouble with them.

(I did do a quarantine with #2 when I first got her. They were so anxious and excited to see each other and hung out for about 2 days and then it went down hill. I'm just so disappointed they have never truly got along and part of it was probably because I got a female the second time.)

FaeryBee 04-26-2018 08:41 PM

You've made a wise decision. :hug:


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