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Old 07-18-2018, 10:15 AM
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Hi everyone, I'm Shawn from Singapore. I just got these 2 budgies from my uncle 2 days ago and I've just completed my set up for the cage. I'm a beginner and so far I'm following the recommendations/suggestions on this forum . But I would like to seek your opinion on my cage set up and if there's anymore suggestions. Thanks

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Do you have any pictures so we can see the set up?
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Here a picture, I have posted more pictures in the introduction thread

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One of the biggest recommendations on this forum is regarding breeding and unfortunately I can see your new set up does include a nest box. I think as a self confessed newbie, breeding should not be on your agenda right now.

Your lovely birds are still settling in to their new homes and new surroundings.
It would be great if you allowed them to settle into their new home and you got to know their personalities a little. While you get to know them, you would need to research budgie breeding.
There's more to breeding than just having a male & female and putting in a nest box.

For now, I would remove the nest box.
I'm not saying you can't breed your birds but I think you would be better off waiting a while longer and really learning more about budgies. At the very least, you'd want them to be on a diet suitable for breeding budgies before you even started them.

It also looks like you can't even access that nest box from outside the cage. Is that correct?

I got my first bird in 2015 and waited two whole years before breeding. I felt so much better prepared for it by waiting. You don't have to wait two years but I think it would be a little careless to not wait until next year. Surely there's no big rush, right?

Are you planning on letting your birds have supervised out of cage time in a bird safe room?

The cage they're in is quite small and there's no way they can flap around a little while inside it. You would need to get a bigger cage for them ideally. And if you did breed babies, where would they go? There's no real way more birds could live in this cage.

The dowel perches should be replaced with natural bird safe wooden perches to exercise their feet better and prevent bumblefoot.
They could also do with some toys they can destroy. That would be more fun for them.

Did you do any research before you got your birds or start afterwards? You mentioned following the forums recommendations so I hope that will follow these.

As these birds came from your Uncle, I assume he knows a bit about budgies and breeds them too? Which is great but it doesn't mean you have to do it straight away.
You may also find that there's a lot more information that you can learn now that he doesn't know. My Dad bred budgies and other birds for years but he doesn't know about a lot of the newer best practices for them. So as I got my first bird I set things up with what he told me, only to realise afterwards that these ideas he had weren't correct and could be damaging to my birds.

like I said, I am not trying to put you off breeding your birds. I just think you don't need to breed them right now.
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Thanks for your input, well I guess I got the nest box because I saw them kissing and bobbling heads all the time. Is it Ok to have the nest box around? I actually bought a bigger cage, the one in the picture. It's dimensions are 37.5cm front, 41cm side 47cm height, is it really too small? Noted about the perches, will get the natural ones. Thanks again
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Although it's great that they are bonded, it really would be best for you and them to wait if you want to breed them.

Consider where you have you babies living once they hatch (and remember budgies will breed brother/sister, father/daughter so altogether in a cage isn't going to be ideal).
The nest box also takes up quite a bit of the space in that cage. How big are the dimensions of the cage they are currently in?
Ideally a cage that is wider rather than higher is best for budgies as they will fly side to side not up and down.

I would remove the nest box for now and if by spring time you feel confident in your knowledge as a bird owner, reconsider the idea. It would be very overwhelming if the male died when the mother had a clutch of 7 chicks. You don't want to have to be prepared for such a horrible situation but these things happen and you have to be prepared for it.
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The dimensions of the cage are 37.5cm front, 41cm side 47cm height. Noted on the nest box, I'll just modify it so that it fits outside the cage.I live in Singapore and its summer all year long pretty much tropical climate, which I guess makes it tougher to determine the breeding season? How I wish we had the four seasons lol
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My personal opinion is you do not have the experience needed to breed budgies at this time. Just moving it to access it from the outside isn't the issue.
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Hi there!

Your budgies are very cute

As mentioned in many of your previous posts, you need to remove the nest box. You should not try to breed your budgies at this time because you do not yet have the experience necessary to do so!

You would endanger the budgies by allowing them to breed now because you don't have the experience to recognize when something goes wrong and you would put the health of both parents and their babies at risk.

If you'd like to learn everything about budgies necessary to breed them over a period of several months, you can do that. Read through the forums, ask your avian vet, etc. But this research you must do BEFORE you breed your birds, and it's not something you can do overnight. Next year, if you research as much as possible before then, you can maybe breed your budgies.

Again, you need to remove the nestbox. Also, as mentioned, you need to replace the dowel wood perches with natural wood perches, it's better for their feet
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Hi there
I agree with both Therm & Starlingwings - your birds do not need to breed to be happy and you are probably not YET prepared with the knowledge to do so. Budgies naturally sleep on perches, nest boxes are only used when breeding.

Here is a link to the list of stickies:
https://www.talkbudgies.com/general-...-stickies.html
As you will see, there is list covering various aspects of budgie care.
There is a link for good cage essentials, including minimum recommended cage sizes.
There are sections on health and diet, taming and bonding and also a section on the absolute BASICS of breeding (we would expect prospective breeders to do independent research beyond this).
A link that may be helpful at present is:
https://www.talkbudgies.com/budgie-b...want-eggs.html

Enjoy your pair for now, get to know their characters and try to set them up for a healthy happy life together. Breeding may be something you consider in the future but for now, watch, listen and learn about these two little creatures.
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