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Housing for Budgies Discuss Cages, Cage Set-Ups and Aviaries

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Old 12-10-2019, 06:42 PM
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I have a small english budgie and I feel like it would be best to get her a friend. However, my other budgie has just passed away and I do not want another budgie any time soon because he was just too special (it is very hard to express over writing the love I had for him and the grief I experienced and am experiencing at his death). I am just so heartbroken and just cannot bring myself to buy another one.
However I do not want my girl to be alone. We are in the process of bonding but she is still a bird. It is just so terrible because I got her as a companion for my male after my first female passed away (it took me a year to finally emotionally be able to buy another budgie, which is the girl I have now), and now I am trying to figure out what to do for a companion for her, less than two months after buying her.
I was wondering if she would like it if I got a canary and put their cages near each other. I would only let them be together supervised and otherwise they would have their own cages. Would this make her happier while I am not home?


Edit: I just found an offer of a canary that comes with a huge cage. I know that canaries and budgies can live together successfully in an aviary because there is more space, and its more dangerous in a small cage because the budgie can hurt the canary. But if the cage is larger, would it be possible for them to live together? I am not trying to do this but if it is okay that would be better than having two small cages side by side because space will be tighter that way.


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It is not recommended to house two different species of birds in the same cage.

IF you choose to get a canary then it should be housed separately from the budgie.

There are many things to take into consideration before getting another bird.

Do you really want another pet?

Quarantine
If you decide to get another bird in the future, please be sure to observe quarantine for the new bird.

Quarantine means housing the new bird in a different cage in a different room than the current bird (as far away from the room the current bird is in as possible) for a period of 35-45 days.

Birds mask symptoms when they are ill. Symptoms may not show up for over two weeks.
Often you will not even realize your bird is not well. Many budgie illnesses are airborne which is why you need to quarantine your new bird in a completely different room.

It is also a good idea to always take a new bird in to see an Avian Vet for a "well-birdie" check-up. This allows you to develop a good relationship with the vet and the vet can establish a baseline for your bird in case of any future illnesses or injuries.

If there are no Avian Vets in your area, then finding an Exotic Pet Veterinarian who has experience in dealing with small birds is the next best option.


Vet Expense and Housing
Do you have the time, finances, etc to devote to another bird?

Are you ready, willing and able to house the canary separately from your budgie?


Be Prepared for Veterinary Care Expense
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Old 12-11-2019, 01:36 AM
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Thank you for your reply. Id like to say that this would not be the first time I would be getting a new pet and I understand the entire procedure. I have a vet, finances, time, space, knowledge, etc. for this. To me getting a new pet is like adding a family member and they are treated just the same.
When it comes to the topic of getting a canary, the only thing Im not sure about is if I WANT a new bird right now. That is precisely why I am asking this question. Would my budgie be happier if she had a canary friend nearby? Would that cheer her up or would she ignore it since it's a different species? If itll make her happier, I will CONSIDER and seriously think about if it is a good time to add another pet to the family. I have always wanted a canary and I am wondering if this is the time to finally get one. I want my budgie to be happy and I have the time and resources to get another bird if I choose to.
As I mentioned, I am not trying to have them live in one cage. That was something I was curious about since I've heard success stories about this combination in large cages. I would not jeopardize the safety of my pets just to have one cage.

In regards to my post on clicking, I was not able to respond because the topic was closed and do not understand why. I have a vet, and I will be in contact with her, please understand that. In the meantime though, I would like to find out as much as I can before appointment takes place. If I were just able to get some more advice before taking my boy to the vet, perhaps someone could have warned me on the dangers of sedation for budgies, or informed me of how specific illnesses can be spotted in droppings. I could have saved a lot of heartache and stress if someone had just said a little more besides just 'take him to the vet'. Please understand, these are people writing behind the screen, and as humans we have emotions and life experiences as well. I am going through a time of extreme stress and am grieving over the loss of my boy. I had also had my elderly bunny pass away of cancer recently and it isn't easy. As some people have gone through before, it is extremely traumatizing when you take your beloved pet to the vet expecting a simple diagnosis and end up leaving with their body in a box. If someone had just informed me beforehand on what to expect instead of just yelling at me to take my budgie to the vet, he could have still been alive today.
I know what I'm about to say isnt received well by many, but I have had pets that I have never taken to the vet, and they lived their entire lifespan and passed away of either old age or issues that were not able to be prevented nor treated. Ive also had pets ive taken to the vet that did not make it to their old age. Please understand, I am trying to get the most knowledge I can so I can make the right decisions at home and at the vet. I have treated many of my own pets at home with a few dollars and they turned out fine and healthy, while I've watched many people spend hundreds at the vet for the same problem. I am not anti-vet, and I love my pets like i would love my own children. I DO have a vet, but let me just say it is one of the worst things in the world when in the last moments of your pets life, you have to watch how they are terrified and scared of what is going on. I find that taking my birds to the vet is much more stressful than taking any other pet, and since they are so small I want to take precautions.

I know I may offend some people with this. But PLEASE believe me, I love my pets and want what is best.

Back on the topic of canaries, I simply want to know if a budgie will be happy to have a canary in the same room. Dont worry, I WILL get my budgies problem checked out and WILL quarantine, etc. Please don't think that everyone out there is an irresponsible pet owner because you disagree with something, or you didnt finish hearing what they said.
I appreciate the concern and I am thankful for it. You guys dont know me and are trying to make sure I do what is best for my pets.
I want to do what is best too and please ask for patience for someone who is grieving.

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It is actually difficult to say whether or not your budgie will be happier with another bird (canary) in the same room. Hearing and seeing the canary in a cage next to her may be comforting to the budgie but it may could also trigger the response of the budgie wanting to get out of the cage to visit the canary.

Sorry there isn't an easy answer.

How much time are you able to spend with your budgie each day? Many birds are quite happy being solo birds whereas others are generally happier having a bird friend (if not in the same cage then at least in the same room).

Overall, I would say having a canary in a cage next to the budgie's cage (after quarantine) will, in all probability, work out well for you and your budgie.

With regard to the other portion of your last post.

Please don't assume we (as staff) believe all pet owners are irresponsible.
Keep in mind that when our staff post on threads we are writing not only to the member who posted but also the the membership at large.
In this way we are better able to educate everyone who reads the thread.

With regard to your other thread regarding the clicking, I will reopen it for you.
Please recognize that forum members are not professionals and can not diagnose a budgie's potential illness by going on what is written in another members' post.
From what you had written in your post in the other thread, it read as if you were trying to find a way to avoid taking the budgie to the vet if at all possible.

The input offered by other members needs to be treated as "speculation" keeping in mind these are not trained professionals.
Anytime a member makes a thread indicates their bird is ill our staff will always going to recommend it be seen by an Avian Vet for a proper diagnosis and potential treatment plan.
Doing so is what we consider to be "best practice".

I, too, have had to take budgies to the vet and experience how frightened they were in their final moments before the vet helped them to move on to the Rainbow Bridge.
I fully understand it isn't an easy process and still believe that if a pet is ill, then professional medical attention is warranted.

Best wishes in your decision on whether or not to bring a Canary friend into your Budgie's life.
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I have a good friend who has three Canaries that I take care of at my house when she goes on vacation . Although the Canaries are kept in a separate room from my Budgie Birdie they are within hearing distance of each other . I have never noticed them to try to communicate , as in when the Canaries sing my Birdie doesn't react and when my Birdie chirps and makes other noises the Canaries don't react . I don't know if this is due to the short duration of their time in the same house or if it's due to the different breeds of birds , their sounds being so different .
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Hmm okay, so it would probably all just come down to the individual budgie. She seems to like it when I turn on canaries singing though
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If your budgie likes listening to the canaries singing then she'll most likely enjoy having a canary as a friend in a "next door" cage.
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Okay, I'll think about it. If I do end up getting any it will probably be in a month at the earliest.

But speaking of canaries, is their diet the same as I would feed my budgie? Pellets, fresh and dried veggies and fruit, eggs, supplements, and seeds as treats? I hear some people say to add grit. Is that true?
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Here is my experience with budgies and canaries, I used to have 2 canaries now I have only one and 8 budgies. I have 5 flight cages, 2 budgies to a cage and the canary has his own cage. All the birds have out of the cage time together, at no time have the budgies showed any interest in the canary and visa versa. If anyone is territorial it is the canary, canaries are not flock oriented birds like budgies and at times if any of the budgies get to close to Jack, my canary, he will get aggressive. I also have 2 linnies and it is the same with them, they stick to socializing with their own, so if you are looking for company for a budgie, I think another budgie would be of the most benefit to a budgie. If you just want a different species that is another thing altogether, just don't expect 2 different species to be best buddies or even really understand each other, budgies speak budgie and canaries speak canary. The seed mix for a canary is a bit different than a budgie mix, my guy eats a canary seed mix, Zupreem canary pellets plus fresh veggies. They also have different health issues so if you get one make sure you do a bit of research on that.
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Okay, thank you for the info. I feel like that actually makes it easier for me that she might not care too much about canaries. I think she would be happy to have more birds around just for the sound and activity, but I don't want it to take away from the relationship I have with her. So if she doesn't care too much about them I feel like that's what I want haha
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