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Hello! I'm really happy there is a forum for lovebird lovers, as I have a question about my grandparents' peach-faced lovebird, Pippo.
Despite they have a boy's name, we don't really know if they are male or female.
I have read that you can only determine the sex of a lovebird with a DNA test, so, even though Pippo showed "male behaviour", like trying to mate with a piece of crumpled paper towel and never tucking the strips of paper he makes in their tail feathers (despite making a lot of strips), I'm not assuming that they are male.
However, my grandparents own Pippo since 2009/2010, and we know from the birds' leg band that they were born in 2008. Is the fact that Pippo, who is about 11 years old, never laid an egg in 9/10 years enough to think they are male?
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It's true that you can only accurately determine the gender of a lovebird with a DNA test.

The fact that the bird has not laid an egg is not really an indication of gender - many females never lay an egg unless they've actually mated with a male.

That said, the fact that your grandparents' lovebird does not tuck the strips of paper is more indicative of a male lovebird's behavior.
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https://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/an...ty-paper-tails

I may have provided misinformation.
I was going from my experience with male and female peach faced lovebirds rather than actual "fact". I should know better!

From my further research, I've found that while "tucking" the shredded paper is considered to be "primarily" a female trait, occasionally a male will "tuck" but it is not common for them to do so.
Shredding is done by both males and females.

Keep in mind that like the other indications of male/female for lovebirds, (flatter head for a female, wider stance, fan-shaped tail, etc.) nothing is for certain without a DNA test or if you see the bird laying an egg.
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So, according to your research, Pippo behaves like most male lovebirds do, shredding paper (a lot, actually) but never tucking the strips in their tail feathers. Your first reply wasn't wrong.
Unfortunately I don't think I will ever get the chance to make a DNA test, to know if Pippo is really a male or is just a female that doesn't tuck (I guess not all the females do it, right?).
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I would say that *most* Peach Faced Lovebirds which are female do the "tucking" of the strips.

One of my PeachFaced lovebirds was DNA tested and is definitely male. He shreds but never tucks.
The other PeachFace lovebird was not DNA tested but exhibits the characteristic of shredding strips but never trying to tuck them.

My third lovebird was a Fischer's and while she was not DNA tested, I considered her to be a female.
Poppy was quite bossy, aggressive and territorial. Like most Fischers, she loved shredding, but neither the female nor the male Fischer's do the "tuck" the way the PeachFaced Lovebirds do.
Even though Poppy and Pedro were never DNA tested, I simply bestowed a "gender" on them, gave them appropriate names for those genders and referred to them as such.

If I were you, I'd simply assume that Pippo is a male and wouldn't worry about DNA testing.
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If I were you, I'd simply assume that Pippo is a male and wouldn't worry about DNA testing.
That's what I will do.
After all, I wanted to know his gender just out of curiosity, it's not important at all.
It would have been important if we were planning to find him a mate, but we aren't, as Pippo is old and presumably handraised (he landed on the shoulder of a close friend of my grandfather, who gave the lovebird to him; if Pippo was "wild" or handtamed I don't think he would have trusted a random person so much).
Again, thank you!

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