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In Memory Tributes and Memorials to Budgies which have moved on to the Rainbow Bridge
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I'm sorry that this has to be my first post on this forum, but i got no one else to ask. I know it's wrong not to go to the vet, but i only got dog/cat vets in my area, and i got only " give him this antibiotic, maybe it will help " as an answer to my budgies sickness.
Thing is, i've had this budgie (male) for 2+ years. Found him in front of the building and took him inside right away. Since then, he's free to fly arround the apartment from room to room, always happy, singing, talking (perfectly if i may add haha), and even imitating sparrows which he heards when we bring him out . He even survived a dog bite a year ago (parrents left him at neighbours house while they were on vacation, and neighbours dog broke the cage and bite him leaving him with broken wing), kept quiet for a month and went back to old "crazy" state . 3-4 days ago, he started acting weird. His eyes are half open, sits at the bottom of the cage in the corner next to his mirrors most of the day, moves away from that spot only to eat something and drink water and then he goes back to the bottom corner. He's all fluffed , but his feet are warm (keeping him on about 22-25 celsius). Ocasionally, i can see him trying to vommit, but no seeds come out, sometimes i can see some dense liquid starting to come out, but he swallows it. Feces look ok, i can see watery part, green mushy part and some white. We're feeding him same way as always, seeds mix with vitamins and a mineral block next to it, he only stopped eating veggies/fruits (apple,banana,grapes etc.). Even tried sipping some chamomile tea mixed with his water and he drinks it. Nothing has helped so far.
Could anyone give me some pointers on what to do? Taking him to the vet would be the first and best thing, but there just isn't any arround my area :\ . I've heard from a budgie breeder it can also help to put some garlic in boiled water and let it sit like that for 24 hours and give him to drink , aswell as trying to give him some low sugar biscuit in order to stop his vommiting attempts (says that's how he usually solved those problems).

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I'm so sorry your budgie is sick, I'm afraid I can't help you, except to say to keep him warm, which you are already doing. Best advice would be a vet, any vet would probably be better than none

Hopefully someone else will be along to give you a better idea of what to do.

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Well, i've tried 3 "regular" vets in my town, none could give me a sollution. Only 1 told me to try and give him a drop of Enrocin 10% (anti infective) in hope it solves his current condition. I've tried that for 2 days, still no progress
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Awww, I'm so sorry your little budgie isn't well. If he is on the bottom of the cage and not perching, that typically means they are very sick. I wish there was some magic potion that could cure your little guy, but even though they are small, they are still incredibly complex.

Are you sure there is no avian vet? Have you tried searching on the links in this thread? https://talkbudgies.com/showthread.php?t=73594 Where abouts do you live?

There are so many things that could be wrong with your little one. Crop infections can be one cause, but so can things like ulcers. I would be reluctant to offer garlic without knowing what is wrong.

It's great that you are keeping him nice and warm. I would suggest that you even consider bringing up the temperature even more, to 30 degrees Celsius. Also make sure he is away from drafts, and not kept in the dark for extended periods of time as that can affect his eating. (Many budgies will not eat in the dark.)

Speaking of eating, is your little guy actually ingesting food, or he is just rummaging around his food dishes? What do the droppings look like? Are they still well formed? Are they few in number? Are they discoloured? Are they watery?

Please let us know how he is doing, okay?
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Awww, I'm so sorry your little budgie isn't well. If he is on the bottom of the cage and not perching, that typically means they are very sick. I wish there was some magic potion that could cure your little guy, but even though they are small, they are still incredibly complex.

Are you sure there is no avian vet? Have you tried searching on the links in this thread? https://talkbudgies.com/showthread.php?t=73594 Where abouts do you live?

There are so many things that could be wrong with your little one. Crop infections can be one cause, but so can things like ulcers. I would be reluctant to offer garlic without knowing what is wrong.

It's great that you are keeping him nice and warm. I would suggest that you even consider bringing up the temperature even more, to 30 degrees Celsius. Also make sure he is away from drafts, and not kept in the dark for extended periods of time as that can affect his eating. (Many budgies will not eat in the dark.)

Speaking of eating, is your little guy actually ingesting food, or he is just rummaging around his food dishes? What do the droppings look like? Are they still well formed? Are they few in number? Are they discoloured? Are they watery?

Please let us know how he is doing, okay?
Yea i'm sure, closest one is like 200km from me . I'm from Serbia. I've also sent an e-mail to veterinary medicine faculty in hope they answer.

Well i was thinking it has something to do with crop since he actually eats ( i've watched him closely if he's just taking seeds and spitting them out, but he ain't ). He's in the shade with enough light during the day, and covered in the night to keep him warm (when he was healthy, he was eating even in the dark, u could just here seeds cracking haha).

As far as droppings go, they still look as they did when he was healthy . Sometimes firm and spiraly, sometimes watery, didn't notice any change last few days. Over the night they are pilled up on the paper under the branch he sleeps on, and during the day, they are scattered arround the cage when he goes to eat/drink, but most of droppings are at the corner where he spends most of his time.

When i get him out of the cage he just sits still on my shoulder and closes his eyes, fluffy like a ball ... Though, sometimes he wants to fly to the table since he got used to eating with us (yea i know it's bad for him, but my parrents always let him eat some bread, cheese, soup, beans, bla bla ... i always told them not to let him do that since it's bad for him, but he never had any problems ... )

I don't know if he's maybe traumatised because few days ago he was flying arround, and probably got tired and crashed into a pile of books. He was still acting happy though after that, singing and talking.
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This is the patient, Riki. Just took the pictures
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Aww, your poor baby. He does look like one sick little budgie. See how fluffed up he is?

The vomiting concerns me quite a bit. Did you say that he has done this on more than one occasion? And how long in between episodes?

I know that this is a shot in the dark, but sometimes a yeast infection can cause crop issues (like vomiting). Putting a couple of small drops of apple cider vinegar (with "the mother") into the drinking water can help restore the balance of yeast and bacteria in the crop. The downside to this is that the apple cider vinegar would be too hard on the digestive tract if there are any ulcerations present. You haven't noticed any dark tarry looking droppings have you? (This indicates that blood is being digested and then subsequently passed through the droppings.)

Can you give the little sweety a little more heat? And it is probably best to keep him in his cage unless you are taking him out for some delicate cuddling.

I'm not sure what else to suggest. Again, I wish there was a magic potion that would cure all of their illnesses.
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Aww, your poor baby. He does look like one sick little budgie. See how fluffed up he is?

The vomiting concerns me quite a bit. Did you say that he has done this on more than one occasion? And how long in between episodes?

I know that this is a shot in the dark, but sometimes a yeast infection can cause crop issues (like vomiting). Putting a couple of small drops of apple cider vinegar (with "the mother") into the drinking water can help restore the balance of yeast and bacteria in the crop. The downside to this is that the apple cider vinegar would be too hard on the digestive tract if there are any ulcerations present. You haven't noticed any dark tarry looking droppings have you? (This indicates that blood is being digested and then subsequently passed through the droppings.)

Can you give the little sweety a little more heat? And it is probably best to keep him in his cage unless you are taking him out for some delicate cuddling.

I'm not sure what else to suggest. Again, I wish there was a magic potion that would cure all of their illnesses.
Yea, he did it more than once, but like every 3-4 hours if his head isn't tucked in between his wings. He does it few times and goes back to normal. I've been watching him for past 30 minutes, he does eat the seeds, no spitting on the side.

I got a new bottle of apple cider vinegar and placed 3 drops in the water few minutes ago . We'll see how it goes.

As far as droppings go, i just took a look, fresh ones are curled and green with white, some got water arround them, some don't.

Heheh, he's getting the heat, i placed the cage near heat source, it's nice and worm, but he's still fluffy. His legs are warm also

Edit: I find this weird, could it be crop swelling or something ? His chest usually ain't like that, only when he was "arguing" with us, when he was "mad" and starts letting out some wierd noises
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Edit 2: Noticed he's like that only when sitting on the branch. He just went out of the cage to his other food box to eat seeds and mineral block, drank some water, went back to the cage and started like he's gonna vommit, did it 3 times and stopped, nothing came out. Weird. Gonna try with regular vet tomorrow when i come back from work.

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Unfortunately, Riki died 2 hours ago . For last 2 days he couldn't eat or drink water, i tried doing it by myself, but he was just throwing up, he couldn't even stand on his feet, they were stiff, he was just laying down and tried opening his eyes from time to time. We'll always remember him, he made us laugh so many times, crazy budgie indeed.
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Im sorry for ur loss. That has to be rough. He was a cute birdie and was definitely well loved. Prayers to you during your grieving process.
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