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In Memory Tributes and Memorials to Budgies which have moved on to the Rainbow Bridge
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I have 4 budgies right now. After 6 month of keeping them with good care they laid several eggs. Two of them hatched 2 months ago. Two beautiful budgies were born. One of them was Kuchi. His brother was weak from beginning and I tried to hand feed him also but he died. After a week, Kuchi, the stronger, playful, growing budgie suddenly died.
In the afternoon also I saw him playing and in the evening he seemed disturbed and closing his eyes. I tried to feed him (he was able to eat seeds). He refused and tried to hide under my hands. He was waving wings vigorously. Suddenly he started shivering and taking deep breath. Died within minutes.
I am really upset with this incident and I am really clueless what caused him death. His cage was clean, I offer good seeds, Toys, Cuttlebone, Fresh water with Neopeptine. I have attached the pictures for your advice to avoid any repetition. Please advice
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my sincere and deepest sympathies on your loss of your budgies.I'm truly sorry that has happened.Sending you comforting prayers in your time of sorrow.I don't know myself what could had happened to them.
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I'm very sorry to hear of your loss of the two chicks. No one would be able to tell you for sure exactly what happened, as there could be many, many reasons that your young chicks could have passed. I understand that you did your best to keep things clean and do things the best way you saw fit, but so many things can go wrong when you allow your birds to breed. Breeding takes even more in depth knowledge than keeping pet birds healthy and thriving, and is best left to experts. Again, my condolences to you, I am very sorry this has happened.
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I'm very sorry for your chicks' passing...

Unfortunately, we aren't able to tell the exact causes that led to their passing as there are many possibilities, the first one being the parents age and their ability to care for the chicks; another factor is if your budgies were in a colony setting as this would also add a lot of stress; another aspect to consider is the parents' health and the ability to tell if they are in good shape health wise to go through with the breeding task, a good breeding diet is also vital for the healthy growth and development of chicks.
Things like being able to tell if the chicks are developing well and being well fed and to intervene fast in terms of raising the chicks if the parents are neglecting the clutch. Having all the supplies and the ability to feed the chicks and keep them warm as they continue to grow, etc.

This is exactly why it's not advisable for people relatively new to budgies to go through the breeding route so fast, because many problems can arise where the owner won't be able to detect the issues and act in a timely manner to save the chicks or even in certain cases one of the parents that when not in good health can even fall sick due to the extra strain of breeding and raising their young and they can also pass away, leaving just one budgie parent to care for the clutch.

For the welfare and safety of your flock, if you haven't done so already, please remove all nesting pots or other similar nesting areas in order to discourage further breeding.
It's important that you get better acquainted with the species and do the necessary research in general budgie care and breeding before attempting to breed your budgies again.
The in depth information on the several articles and sticky threads will be extremely useful to you and will certainly benefit your budgies.

Rest in peace, Kuchi and youngest sibling.
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Hi everyone!

I am really thankful for your replies. It was amazing to get in touch with you all too soon. Can you please suggest if there is any avian vets in our forum where I can get some help? I have attached the picture of Kuchi, the cage where he used to stay and their mom & dad sitting on a perch. If this helps to determine any specific reasons then I will be really in a position to eliminate the problem. Please see the photos and suggest something I can do to make them happier and healthier.
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Talk Budgies doesn't have avian vet specialists available for consultations.
The advice given here comes from the budgie loving community which comprises of members with different levels of experience and knowledge in budgies and pet birds in general.

From the photos you posted and apart from the colony setting for budgies which is not recommended, I don't see a red flag with your chick.
The only way you could have more definite answers would be to have your Kuchi fully examined by an avian vet specialist and to have a necropsy done.
This is not something that can be determined online.
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Talk Budgies doesn't have avian vet specialists available for consultations.
The advice given here comes from the budgie loving community which comprises of members with different levels of experience and knowledge in budgies and pet birds in general.

From the photos you posted and apart from the colony setting for budgies which is not recommended, I don't see a red flag with your chick.
The only way you could have more definite answers would be to have your Kuchi fully examined by an avian vet specialist and to have a necropsy done.
This is not something that can be determined online.
Hi Aluz!
Thank you for your reply. I would like to know that which setting you didn't feel recommended and what best can I do to change it.
Can you please provide some reference pictures for keeping four birds where they will live happily? What risks are there which I can avoid what may have caused my Kuchi to die suddenly.
I have ordered Deli Nature meals from now on and special Neopeptine for mixing with water. Apart from that few chewing toys and ceramic bowls for food are on its way. I will do whatever possible to make them happy.

The problem is we do not have avian specialist vets here so much. The deaths also were unpredictable and happened within a few hours so I couldn't get any advice.
They have again laid eggs. Should I stop them from hatching? I am really broken after the death of Kuchi who seemed well fed and very fit. Please help.

Thanking you,
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I'm sorry for your loss.

There's really good information here:
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Have you tried a on line avian vet?
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I am very sorry for the loss of your chicks. I know it's very difficult. Please take a look at this thread:

https://talkbudgies.com/budgie-breedi...s-new-old.html

If she just laid the eggs, and hasn't begun to sit on them yet, you can safely remove them. Check out the stickies in the "Budgie Breeding" section BEFORE you decide to pursuit breeding your birds. It's not a task that should be taken lightly. Research, research, research when it come to this, and when you think you've done enough, research some more.

You of course have my sincerest condolences and deepest sympathies for your losses.

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When a bird dies that has been especially close to someone here, that bird goes to the Rainbow Bridge.
At the Rainbow Bridge there are meadows and hills and beautiful trees of all kinds where all our special friends can fly and climb, hang and flap, hop and run, jump and play, squawk and squeal and sing together.

There is plenty of good food, including grapes and peanuts, ice cream and cheese, spaghetti and especially lots of pizza. There is crystal clear water in brooks and springs are filled with water as well as every kind of delicious fresh fruit juice.

One warm spring even runs full of the coffee they can now drink their fill of without hearing a single no-no. There is lots of glorious sunshine, and sweet warm rain when they want it and our friends are warm and comfortable and totally at peace.

All the birds who had been ill or old are restored to health and vigor and to their natural incredible beauty. Their feathers shine, their wing feathers are whole, and their eyes gleam once again with vitality.

Those who were hurt or maimed or ignored or broken-hearted are made whole and strong and free of fear again, just as we remember them in our dreams of days gone by.

The birds are happy and content..... except for one small thing - they each miss someone very special to them who had to be left behind when the bird returned home. Still they all fly and play happily and safely and noisily together - even the grouchiest greys and orneriest senegals, the tiniest finches and the grandest macaws.

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You have been spotted - and he shrieks to you and then calls your name and his own and cries again and again and as he rushes toward you.

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Your tears of joy are gently brushed away by those beloved wings... and feeling immersed once more in total contentment and love, you and your beloved companion cross the Rainbow Bridge together.
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Hi Aluz!
Thank you for your reply. I would like to know that which setting you didn't feel recommended and what best can I do to change it.
Can you please provide some reference pictures for keeping four birds where they will live happily? What risks are there which I can avoid what may have caused my Kuchi to die suddenly.
I have ordered Deli Nature meals from now on and special Neopeptine for mixing with water. Apart from that few chewing toys and ceramic bowls for food are on its way. I will do whatever possible to make them happy.

The problem is we do not have avian specialist vets here so much. The deaths also were unpredictable and happened within a few hours so I couldn't get any advice.
They have again laid eggs. Should I stop them from hatching? I am really broken after the death of Kuchi who seemed well fed and very fit. Please help.

Thanking you,
Aritra
The setting I mentioned is the colony one, where you have more than one pair of budgies sharing the same cage.
Check this link: https://talkbudgies.com/budgie-breedi...s-dangers.html

I have enumerated the risks that can lead to a bad breeding experience: Age (not too young, nor too old from a minimum of 1 year old to 4 years old), not appropriate diet, overall health of the parents and also making sure the parents aren't related in any way, shape or form.

Have you candled the eggs to check for fertility? https://talkbudgies.com/budgie-breedi...s-fertile.html
Given the fact the chicks on the first clutch hatched two months ago, chances are high some of the eggs are fertile and unfortunately the odds are against these chicks that are yet to hatch. Since the first clutch wasn't successful and the parents didn't have time to rest between clutches and don't seem to be in the best of shape to carry on with a second attempt, it's very possible you will run into problems again.

Do candle the eggs and if they happen to not be fertile, please remove all nesting pots from the cage in order to discourage breeding and discard the eggs.
https://talkbudgies.com/budgie-breedi...want-eggs.html
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