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Default white down = albino chick?

Hiya here is a pic of my newbaby lucky at 11 days old, you can clearly see he/she has white from head to toe, no black or blue feathers that i can see.

So silly question but does having white down mean he/she will be albino like mum? or any chance of he/she being a mix of sky blue and white?






Dad is normal sky blue, but in some areas where there should be white on his wings its sky blue



and here is mum, she is albino hasred eyes and pink toes etc


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I dont think the chick is albino. It would definatley have red eyes and they look black.
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oh yeah totally forgot about the pink eyes in babies lol so nope to albino then.

Is the white just baby down? or does it indicate the adult colour?
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I agree with Rick, it definitely is not an albino it looks like a recessive pied, they have white down as chicks
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recessive pied really? god i hope so they soooo cute!
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recessive pied really? god i hope so they soooo cute!
The chick is definitely a pied, and unless the mom is masking dominant pied the chick must be recessive The markings look more like a recessive than dominant to me though.
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Lindsey, do you see that by the color difference in the skin?
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I have noticed with the albino mum if you hold her towards the light i can see patches of sky blue only on her chest but no markings on her wings, she is still ablino red eyes pink toes, but how will this affect the baby?

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White down means that the baby is a Blue phase bird. With a Green phase bird they have yellow down. This is with mainly normal mutations. Albino's are from blue phase birds and lutino from yellow phase birds. Ino's are born with red eyes. Cinnamons have plum coloured eyes for the first 3 or 4 days of life then the eyes change to the normal black.

With a pairing like yours you will not get visual albino's unless the father is carrying albino genetically. Albino and Lutino are sex linked colours as are Cinnamon and Opaline. If the father is visual sex linked or carry a sex linked colour and the female normal then any sex linked colour that comes out will be females. With the female being a sex linked colour and the male normal and not carrying a sex linked colour you will not get any visual sex linked colours out but at least 50% of the males could be carrying the sex linked gene. That is usually over the breeding life of the bird so it is not unusual for all the male babies in a clutch to be carrying the sex linked gene, and in the next clutch none of them will be carrying it. The only way to tell if these babies are carrying the gene is to breed from them unfortunately, as there is no way to tell visually.

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today the tail feathers and wing feathers of the baby are showing all white so far no other colours are showing, can he/she still be pied?
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