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These 2 are chicks I bred last year... still not sure what they are
Also advice of what to bred them to to get rainbow type colors. First 2 pics are the 1 hen... last 2 pics the other hen the yellow and white are both males.

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Pictures dissapeared..... oops
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The yellow and white one look like dark eyed clears. I wouldn't use them toget to your rainbows. I'd start with the hen in the first picture. She looks like a GF opaline greywing. To have a rainbow, you need YF or gF on an opaline clearwing bird. It would take a few generations to get there, but you could start with her.
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What other birds do you have to use for breeding?
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I have many colors.. blues. skys, colbalts and mauve
Green .. nornal and olive
greywings, clearwing, opalines and normals.
What would you recooment to paor with her... I have yellow faced blues.. type I and II also normal blues.
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Since what you want to do is put the yellowface and opaline on a clearwing bird, you should start with a clearwing. Using a greywing won't help you with that end of it, but at least you can use the opaline and yellowface of this bird.

Put her with a clearwing male. Yellowface, if you have one, or else blue. If he is opaline or split to it, even better. You will get full body greywing offspring at least, but if you are lucky and this bird is split to dilute, then you could get some clearwings/dilute. And some could be yellowfaces. (If the father has the opaline gene, you could get lucky and be done in one.)

If the father isn't opaline or /opaline, then you will have to use one of the sons from this pair, who will be split to opaline, for your next step. What that will be will have to depend on what chicks you have to work with at that point.

If you have full body greywing chicks to work with, then you will want to pair them with clearwings or dilutes. Two full body greywings together will also work, but you will get a lower percentage of clearwings.
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I have several males available. I will post a few and please let me know who you would pick to produce the best steps towards rainbow.
The first is a yf clear wing blue pied. Would the pied mess up the rainbow attempt?
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I have sky blue opalines like this fellow on the left
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This bird doesn't look like a clear wing to me. I could be wrong. But I wouldn't use pied in my trying to get to rainbow. It's just one more thing to weed out. He looks like a greywing to me....
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This clearwing on the left
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