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Mutations and Genetics Learn about budgie genetics and the wide variety of mutations.

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Old 01-24-2013, 08:54 PM
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Hi guys! I'm a new user here but I've been browsing these forums for years. I've recently gotten some new budgies and I was wondering if you guys could help me with them because I'm useless at mutations and I know a lot of you out there are experts.


1)
Male? I'm stumped with this guy the most, if you look closely his chest is green and blue

2A)

Update 2B & 2C

2B)

2C)
Female. paired up with above one (She's got the reddest eyes I've ever seen)

3)
Violet and white female?

4)
Same violet and white one with my regular blue female?

5)
Violet spangle male ? Don't worry about the nest box in the background these birds were only in that cage for a day.

6)
Another picture of above bird.


I've got some other ones which i'll try to take photo's of tomorrow.


==== EDIT ====

Finally got around to taking photo's of my other budgies. Please keep in mind I don't know the mutations of most of these guys so if you know then feel free to chime in

The next two are my singles and then i'll start showing you my pairs.

7)
Pretty sure she's a hen? I want to pair her up with the violet spangle male in #5

8)
Looks blue in the pic but is actually grey. Another hen

The following pictures are my pairs. Most aren't old enough to breed but have been paired up so that when they're the right age they'll already be bonded.

9A)
This male is starting to grow up, cere is starting to turn blue and the blue in his chest is starting to show. When he was younger the blue was very faint and could only be seen if you focused on it really hard.

9B)
The girlfriend of 9A

10)
Female is the dark blue one, Male is the yellow.

11)
The male on the right is a Yellow face, sky blue spangle (is that how you say it?) no idea of what the hen is.

12)
Lutino and regular blue. These guys are the parents of the blue one in picture #4

13)
Regular green and a sky blue spangle? These two are one of the most surprising pairs i've had. Look at the picture below this one to find out why

This was the baby of the above parents.

I named him Lucky because out of a clutch of five eggs he was the only one who survived. I sold him before he started colouring up and the person hand raising him sent me this photo a few weeks later. He turned out grey and I had no clue how, I then looked at the mother and father and noticed the father (spangle) had some extra grey on his wings, so my guess is that he's split grey. I guess this baby really was "lucky"


The next three budgies have deformed beaks so I took them off a friend so that they could have a good home. I don't know what's wrong with their beaks. I read online that it could possibly be from their parents being messy feeders which would cause the beaks to form slowly, not sure if that's really the answer though (all 3 babies were fostered into the same nest). If you have any clue on what it is then please let me know

All males
14)

15)
This little guys beak isn't as noticeable but it doesn't have the point at the end.

16)

17) My 7 week hand raised Green cheek, Natu (Na-too, named after the pokemon). He's a cinnamon but is also split yellow sided

So those are all my budgies (didn't include my other birds) have fun guessing their mutations


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1: I have no idea
2: lacewing
3: Dom. Pied violet?
4: skyblue
5: I guess your right violet spangle

I'm still learning so I'm might be wrong.
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I would be afraid of them flying away, holding them outside
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I'm still learning, but I'm guessing that fellow
with the green vest is a normal sky blue, yellow
face type II. In the type II, the yellow can bleed
onto other colors, thus turning his blue vest green.
Quite the fetching fellow. That clean line between
the colors is really fascinating

2. Lacewing? Fallow? I'm guessing at fallow, but
at best it's a guess. Really pretty!

3. Normal violet dominant pied? Hey,
from the second picture of her, she's
also a spangle.

The folks who really know mutations will
probably chime in here shortly. I'm eager
to hear what they have to say as well.
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Thank you all for your responses. I didn't think that you guys would be as interested as you are so i'll try to get photo's of my other birds really soon
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Your violets are beautiful
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Updated the first post, have fun
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Okay, let's see how I go xD No promises though!

1) Type I Yellow Face normal cobalt. You will notice his colour change a lot as he grows due to the yellow face gene, which can make their feathers appear green.
2) Leaning towards fallow, because of the darkness of the markings. Reminds me of my new girl.
3) I'm thinking dominant pie cobalt.
4) Normal sky blue.
5/6) Spangle cobalt, possibly violet.
7) Can't tel much other than greywing. Looks like a male to me.
8) Possibly a spangle dominant pied... Would love to see another fullbody picture of the front.
9a) I'm thinking yellow face I sky blue DF spangle with suffusion since I can't see any markings and you say that the colours were very faint.
9b) Yellow face Type I sky blue dominant pied.
10) Yellow Face cobalt and Yellow face cobalt recessive pied (could be sky blue)
11) Normal Yellow face II sky blue and yellow face I sky blue spangle.
12) You've got both of those right.
13) Olive green normal and sky blue spangle (possibly opaline).

Good on you for taking in these poor three! It'd be interesting to know what caused the deformities.
14) grey spangle
15) Can't tell much, but possible greywing spangle.
16) Is this one white or yellow? Can't quite tell. Either way, sky blue recessive pied.

17) so cute!
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Okay, let's see how I go xD No promises though!

1) Type I Yellow Face normal cobalt. You will notice his colour change a lot as he grows due to the yellow face gene, which can make their feathers appear green.
2) Leaning towards fallow, because of the darkness of the markings. Reminds me of my new girl.
3) I'm thinking dominant pie cobalt.
4) Normal sky blue.
5/6) Spangle cobalt, possibly violet.
7) Can't tel much other than greywing. Looks like a male to me.
8) Possibly a spangle dominant pied... Would love to see another fullbody picture of the front.
9a) I'm thinking yellow face I sky blue DF spangle with suffusion since I can't see any markings and you say that the colours were very faint.
9b) Yellow face Type I sky blue dominant pied.
10) Yellow Face cobalt and Yellow face cobalt recessive pied (could be sky blue)
11) Normal Yellow face II sky blue and yellow face I sky blue spangle.
12) You've got both of those right.
13) Olive green normal and sky blue spangle (possibly opaline).

Good on you for taking in these poor three! It'd be interesting to know what caused the deformities.
14) grey spangle
15) Can't tell much, but possible greywing spangle.
16) Is this one white or yellow? Can't quite tell. Either way, sky blue recessive pied.

17) so cute!
My girls really does look similar to yours, I posted some more pics so you could get a better look and could compare

#7 has a whiteish cere so wouldn't that make it a female?
#8 i'll take another photo tomorrow as soon as I wake up

If you have any others you'd like to see more photo's of please ask

thank you so much for your help.

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1/ Type 2 yellow face full body greywing cobalt male

2/ Opaline lacewing female

3/ Dominant pied (might also be spangle)


I'll look at the others later if I have time. The deformed beaks are caused by food getting stuck to the beak when the chicks are growing. Checking the nest regularly and cleaning the beaks will avoid this problem
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