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Old 02-10-2013, 03:30 PM
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Default Mutations with Purple Ceres (Male)?

I've always thought that my boy Keiko was a regular dark green dominant pied. But he doesn't have a blue cere, it has been light purple for all the years that I've had him. After looking at other pictures of dark green dominant pieds, many if not most of them have the normal male blue cere. Could Keiko be a different mutation than I thought, or did his cere just not change normally (if so, what might cause this?)?

His mother was a yellow based recessive pied, and his father was a cobalt dominant pied (I think). Keiko was bred with my regular sky blue female Zu, and they had a cobalt clearflight pied, regular green chick, and a yellow based dominant pied. Not sure if any of that matters though!

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First two are without flash, colors true.

Keiko and his son, Savvy, with flash.

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He sure is a great looking bird. I think that it may just simply be that the mother was a recessive pied and the males on that side sure do not get the traditional blue Ceres of the common budgies. I am not an expert on genetics of these birds but I do know that my bird (which I believe is a recessive pied) has a purple cere indicating that he is a male and maybe your bird inherited this feature from the mother. I will say that your bird Keiko is a very impressive looking bird. Here is a picture of my bird.
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I think Keiko is opaline along with being dominant pied . Though I have no idea why his cere is differently coloured .
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He definitely isn't a recessive pied, since he has iris rings. I'm curious for one of the pro's to come along, I can't think why he has a purple cere.
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Your bird is gorgeous, CU Buffs!

Vinay, I did forget opaline! His parents were opaline, and Keiko's daughters are opaline as well.
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Many dominant pieds have a mottled cere like your boy does when the pied mutation effects it https://talkbudgies.com/showthread.php?t=84708
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All of my dominant pied males have purple ceres too, so I'm sure it isn't a problem. I'm not too good at spotting these, but is there a possibility your budgie could be a combination pied? If his father was split for r. pied, your budgie could be dominant and recessive pied at the same time (which would explain why he has iris rings and a purple cere). But I guess even being split for r. pied has ways of showing itself, so that could be the cause too.
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Default Mutations with Purple Ceres (Male)?

Your's looks a lot like my recessive pied and same purple cere.
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