Is he YF1 instead of YF2 - The mother is a YF2? - Talk Budgies Forums


User Menu
Forum Home
Budgie Gallery
Budgie FAQ
Site Guidelines
How-To-Guide
Members List
Today's Posts
Log In
Register now!
Search



Advanced Search
Popular Forums
Announcements

Budgie Articles

Budgie Talk

Budgie Pictures

Budgie Videos

Budgie Behavior

Determining Gender

Your Budgie's Health

Taming and Bonding

Budgie Breeding

In Memory

Other Birds

Contests

Chit Chat

Site Information

Talk Network
Talk Budgies
Talk Cockatiels
Talk Parrotlets
Talk Parrots
Sponsored Ads

Go Back   Talk Budgies Forums > Budgie Talk > Budgie Breeding > Mutations and Genetics


Mutations and Genetics Learn about budgie genetics and the wide variety of mutations.

Closed Thread
 
Short URL LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 03-29-2013, 02:51 PM
Rashu's Avatar
Rashu (Rashdan)
Budgie
 
Profile:Rashu is offline
Gender:
Number of Budgies: 7
Budgie Experience Level: Budgie Lover
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Dhaka, Bangladesh
Posts: 1,080
Gallery: 4
Karma:
Points: 705
Rep Power: 9
Rashu is a splendid one to beholdRashu is a splendid one to beholdRashu is a splendid one to beholdRashu is a splendid one to beholdRashu is a splendid one to beholdRashu is a splendid one to beholdRashu is a splendid one to behold
Question Is he YF1 instead of YF2 - The mother is a YF2?

The chicks have grown up, finished their first moult.

I have kept 2 from the clutch of 6. One of which is a Yellowface. His mum is a Yellowface Mutant 2, the spread of her yellow is all over her body.

However this chick seems to have the yellow only above its tail and face and a portion on his wings (I do remember that sometimes Mutant 1s show some diffusion of yellow).

I have another Yellowface Mutant 2 Normal Skyblue (not from the clutch) who turned seafoam green after his first moult.

I am confused.







Here's the mother.





And about the father, he had dark grey stripes when he was young and throughout his successive moults during 1.5 years. However after his recent moult his stripes seemed to have lightened up a bit. Now I am wondering if he's a Clearwing instead of a Full body Greywing?

Before his recent moult





and now.





And finally, his sister (daughter of the budgies above).

She's a Full Body Greywing Skyblue? She also completed her first moult with her brother.





Reference of cheek patch.


__________________


Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2  
Old 03-29-2013, 04:21 PM
Budgiekeet's Avatar
Budgiekeet (Rick)
Member of the Month January 2013
State:
 
Profile:Budgiekeet is offline
Gender:
Number of Budgies: 14
Budgie Experience Level: Budgie Enthusiast
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Phoenix Arizona.
Posts: 4,870
Gallery: 9
Karma:
Points: 6208
Rep Power: 21
Budgiekeet has a reputation beyond reputeBudgiekeet has a reputation beyond reputeBudgiekeet has a reputation beyond reputeBudgiekeet has a reputation beyond reputeBudgiekeet has a reputation beyond reputeBudgiekeet has a reputation beyond reputeBudgiekeet has a reputation beyond reputeBudgiekeet has a reputation beyond reputeBudgiekeet has a reputation beyond reputeBudgiekeet has a reputation beyond reputeBudgiekeet has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I cant tell from pictures but if you send her to me I will let you know right away
__________________
Picture on Horseshoe Lake
  #3  
Old 03-30-2013, 05:27 PM
LittleFeatheredFriends's Avatar
Older Budgie
 
Profile:LittleFeatheredFriends is offline
Gender:
Number of Budgies: 7
Budgie Experience Level: Budgie Enthusiast
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,247
Gallery: 0
Karma:
Points: 936
Rep Power: 9
LittleFeatheredFriends deserves every one of these pointsLittleFeatheredFriends deserves every one of these pointsLittleFeatheredFriends deserves every one of these pointsLittleFeatheredFriends deserves every one of these pointsLittleFeatheredFriends deserves every one of these pointsLittleFeatheredFriends deserves every one of these pointsLittleFeatheredFriends deserves every one of these pointsLittleFeatheredFriends deserves every one of these points
Default

I don't know much about Yellowface genetics, they are very complicated, but can I just say, you have a beautiful flock

As for the father, I would say he's a greywing, if he was a clearwing his marking would be almost invisible.
__________________
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #4  
Old 04-03-2013, 07:02 PM
NerdyBirdy's Avatar
Baby Budgie
State:
 
Profile:NerdyBirdy is offline
Number of Budgies: 20
Budgie Experience Level: Budgie Breeder
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 322
Gallery: 0
Karma:
Points: 192
Rep Power: 7
NerdyBirdy has a spectacular auraNerdyBirdy has a spectacular aura
Default

Yellowface type II has two alleles. A budgie with only one YF II allele (single factor) will have a yellow face and a turquoise body colour after the first molt. A budgie with two YF II alleles (double factor) will have a yellow face, some yellow tail feathers and a blue body, which means double factor YF II's look like yellowface type I budgies. Sometimes the yellow spreads into the chest area a bit. But if the mother was a single factor YF II, and the father wasn't a yellowface of any kind then it's not possible to get a double factor YF II chick. Considering how patchy the yellow on the mother looked, I would guess that she's either a double factor YF II or a YF I. I would say YF I since a double factor YF II plus a non-yellowface budgie would give you 100% single factor YF II's (which look nothing like the mother or the chick).

The father is either a fullbody colour greywing or a poorly marked clearwing. Fullbody colour greywing is a co dominant mutation, (the father has one greywing allele and one clearwing allele) the only way to get fullbody colour greywing chicks is if the other parent is split for clearwing or greywing (if the father gave a clearwing allele, the mother would have to be split for greywing and if the father gave a greywing allele the mother would have to be split for clearwing since a budgie can't be split for fullbody greywing). There's only a 25% chance of getting a greywing. If the father is a clearwing and the mother is split for clearwing, there's a 50% chance of getting a clearwing chick. It's also possible to get a clearwing chick if the mother is split for clearwing and the father is a fullbody colour greywing. Breed the chick in question when she's old enough and you'll see what she is by what chicks you get from her and a greywing. If she's a clearwing, half the offspring will be clearwings and half will be fullbody greywings. If she's a fullbody greywing, half the offspring will be greywings and half will be fullbody greywings. If you get any greywings, you know she's not a clearwing.

Phewf! That was a lot of explaining. I hope I helped!
Closed Thread



Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:19 PM.



Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright © 2000- 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.1
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Copyright © 2006 - , 2403 Networks LLC. All rights reserved.