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Mutations and Genetics Learn about budgie genetics and the wide variety of mutations.
Thread Description:I'm so confused-maybe it's a sparrow:)

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Old 04-14-2013, 06:05 AM
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So you told me SUncica is Opaline,mauve or blue/violet,or maybe a clearflight pied (yes,she has a white spot on the back of her head but I dont know what that means),but I was thinking whats her ethnic background? Here are some pics,but I dont know how much she weights.


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G'day!

I am always puzzled at the "American budgie" term ... the birds they refer to are identical to a regular budgie - and I learned here that "English" budgies have exactly the same DNA as "regular" budgies.

All that has happened in regard to "English" bred budgies are that a mutation occured way back when and the breeders kept aiming for THAT mutation and eventually, a *type* occured where they could breed to a standard and get it - but they are still regular budgies .... if that makes sense?

You budgie looks to me to be a beautiful, regular budgie - in body type. Obviously, the colour has been bred up, but otherwise, she could slip into a wild outback flock and you could not tell the difference
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thank you very much-I was thinking the same,but then I read about American budgie and got confused.Thanks for compliments
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It may be better to use the terms Pet Type Budgie and Show Type Budgie. All budgies world wide came from the wild bird originally. Early in Australia's history, in the 1800's, naturalists captured birds and took them back to England. This also included at one stage a pair of blue birds that were found in the wild. Very rare as they are usually killed by predators as they really stand out in a flock of green and yellow birds.

Much later on the English started to increase the size of the birds for showing. The same thing happened in Australia. Enthusiasts wanted bigger birds and also different colours started to occur in the birds. During the Second World War when many men went off to fight and also the availability of seed for the birds became hard to get, breeders reduced their flocks and only kept the best of the best. These birds were the basis of the English Show Bird. One thing that did occur with the English birds was a difference in feather. Because the weather in England is colder than in Australia the birds started to develop more and longer softer feathers, to help them cope with the cooler climate.

In Australia we basically have 3 styles of Budgies. The Bush Budgie or Wild Type, these are basically the bird that is found in the wild. The Pet Type which is what most people keep as pets and what the Americans call American Budgies who got to America by a round about method of Australia to England and on to America. Some birds at some stage may have gone direct to America, but it is a very long time since Australia has allowed exports of our native birds and animals, or they were smuggled out of Australia. And the Show Type Bird. In Australia we often call some of them by the term English Show Budgies as some of our top breeders went to England and purchased stock from some of the top breeders over there. Even though we had birds in Australia that were as big as the English blood birds. Some breeders believed they were better than what we had in this country. Imports of birds to Australia were stopped in the mid to late 1990's when there was an outbreak of Newcastle's Disease in England. I believe imports are again allowed but the cost is too prohibitive. There is only one Quarantine Centre that can take them, in Victoria, and you basically have to pay for the whole place to bring birds in. Also if one bird gets sick they may destroy the whole shipment.

Many of the show birds here have some English blood in them but not all. Some breeders have kept some birds pure to the Australian show lines.
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