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budgiezforall 08-28-2013 07:27 PM

Is there any way to tell if a budgie is split for something without breeding it?
 
Is there any way to tell if a budgie is split for something without breeding it? That's my only question for now, but sing te answers may bring more questions to mind... thanks in advance!

RidgeviewChick 08-28-2013 08:57 PM

I really don't know the answer.... but I wanted to ask if you can use a different colour for your posts? The green is so hard to see... but you always have great things to add to the conversation, so I would love to read your posts more easily. I do try tilting my screen, but it doesn't help much. :cool: Thanks!!!

budgiezforall 08-28-2013 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RidgeviewChick (Post 1504377)
I really don't know the answer.... but I wanted to ask if you can use a different colour for your posts? The green is so hard to see... but you always have great things to add to the conversation, so I would love to read your posts more easily. I do try tilting my screen, but it doesn't help much. :cool: Thanks!!!

Sure! Hows this. Sorry, I didn't really think about the colour thing; on my computer I can see it clearly. Thanks for the compliment! :)

RidgeviewChick 08-28-2013 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by budgiezforall (Post 1504433)
Sure! Hows this. Sorry, I didn't really think about the colour thing; on my computer I can see it clearly. Thanks for the compliment! :)

That green is awesome!!!! no tilting needed :D thanks so much!!! :p

budgiezforall 08-28-2013 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RidgeviewChick (Post 1504441)
That green is awesome!!!! no tilting needed :D thanks so much!!! :p

Haha, no tilting needed! You're very welcome! :)

Jimm-V 08-28-2013 10:31 PM

Split means hidden genes not visual at all to the naked eyes. No way you can tell a budgie is split for this gene or for that gene by looking at that budgie. Breeding that budgie would only show the offsprings in true genes.

Split is only possible for recessive genes (and not dominant genes), and sex-linked genes.

The parentage of that budgie would give a clue or 2 of split genes to its offsprings. Sometimes split genes would not show for countless breedings and remain hidden forever or out of the blue it shows itself in 1 breeding.

orangeclumsy 08-28-2013 10:32 PM

I know that sometimes if a baby is born split for recessive pied, it may have one odd spot on it somewhere that shows it is. I have one baby right now with that!

buddyboy101 08-29-2013 09:15 AM

With budgies split for recessive pied there are small things that I noticed ( I have 2 ) The male never got clear eye- rings and his cere never turned bright blue like a normal male. It stayed pink/purplish much like a recessive pied male. My female never got clear eye rings either even though she is a year and a half old. Also in young budgies before their first moult you can tell if they are split for blue by blue feathers around the vent. That goes away after their first moult.

budgiezforall 08-29-2013 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimm-V (Post 1504537)
Split means hidden genes not visual at all to the naked eyes. No way you can tell a budgie is split for this gene or for that gene by looking at that budgie. Breeding that budgie would only show the offsprings in true genes.

Split is only possible for recessive genes (and not dominant genes), and sex-linked genes.

The parentage of that budgie would give a clue or 2 of split genes to its offsprings. Sometimes split genes would not show for countless breedings and remain hidden forever or out of the blue it shows itself in 1 breeding.

Thanks Roland! I'm really interested in all this genetic stuff. Love to learn!

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Originally Posted by orangeclumsy2 (Post 1504553)
I know that sometimes if a baby is born split for recessive pied, it may have one odd spot on it somewhere that shows it is. I have one baby right now with that!

Thanks emily, but, what do you mean by odd spot, and are you talking about budgies before their first molt?

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Originally Posted by buddyboy101 (Post 1505321)
With budgies split for recessive pied there are small things that I noticed ( I have 2 ) The male never got clear eye- rings and his cere never turned bright blue like a normal male. It stayed pink/purplish much like a recessive pied male. My female never got clear eye rings either even though she is a year and a half old. Also in young budgies before their first moult you can tell if they are split for blue by blue feathers around the vent. That goes away after their first moult.

Hmm, good to know! Thanyl you so much for sharing!


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