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Old 10-09-2013, 11:01 AM
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Hi everyone, I have a few questions regarding my budgie Peppy.
If I'm not mistaken, she is a grey green recessive pied budgie. I never had a grey green before and would like to know if it's possible to know which parent passed the grey green gene to her.

Here is Peppy with her sisters


Her black tail feathers


This is Mona, her mother. I think she is visually a cobalt normal, maybe has some violet, I don't really know.
On her previous clutches with a different male, I got a cobalt blue like her, a sky blue normal, a light green and sky blue greywing and a sky blue greywing opaline.





And this is the father, Carioca. A dark green normal budgie.


Peppy didn't lose all her baby bars on her first moult and strangely enough her new tail feathers changed colours. These pics were taken after she reached the 6 months mark. And her cere hasn't changed colours, either.





So, to sum things up (and I apologise for the long post), I would like to know from which parent did Peppy get the grey green. I'm leaning towards her father, but I'm not sure.
And also would like your thoughts on why did her tail feathers change so much after the moult. Does this happen often with recessive pieds? I also find it odd that her cere doesn't mature. It's always been whitish with a bit of pink.

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Neither of the parents have any Grey, and because Grey is dominant they can't be split for it. I'd say she's actually Olive Green, and got one dark factor from each parent.
Yes Recessive Pieds do change a bit, it's normal.
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Neither of the parents have any Grey, and because Grey is dominant they can't be split for it. I'd say she's actually Olive Green, and got one dark factor from each parent.
Yes Recessive Pieds do change a bit, it's normal.
Thanks for clarifying that for me!
I thought olive green budgies didn't get any black on the tail feathers.
She's the first recessive pied I got from breeding, also my first yellow based RP so maybe they all get the black tail feathers with the yellow mixed in between.
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My Sky Blue Recessive Pied has black in her tail, so I think it might be a trait of the mutation.
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Yes, it probably is.
Back in 2011 I also had a sky blue recessive pied, she was a rescued stray that came to my budgies' cages very hungry and in need of rest.
Unfortunately, I only had her for 6 months, she passed away unexpectedly.
She had dark blue on her tail feathers with a mix of white in between.
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